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Dear Mr. Bravo
Thank you for your e-mail of October 7th and congratulations to you and the team on today’s victory.

Before making any substantive response I am compelled to first refute in the strongest possible manner all of your previous assertions claiming ignorance on the part of the “senior players” regarding the proposal to discontinue the payment of $35,000 per day of cricket for the benefit of members of the senior West Indies team, and the reallocation of these monies to help to fund retainer contracts for an additional ninety (90) members of WIPA.

Please recall your attendance at WIPA’s AGM held in Trinidad on Saturday, February 1st 2014 at the Capital PLAZA HOTEL where you, other senior players including Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Ramnaresh Sarwan, along with several other members in attendance, participated in a lively and lengthy discussion about this issue following a presentation made by WIPA Director, Michael Hall.

The minutes of that AGM record your comments expressing 100% support for this initiative and you will be provided with a copy of the resolution authorizing the WIPA Executive to pursue same, which was passed by majority vote of the members present on the floor. The minutes also reflect the only qualification to your support, which was to ask that the current WIPA executive make every effort to ensure that the shortfall in revenue accruing from the reallocation, be made up in other areas of player remuneration.

I also wish to place on record my strong rejection of your assertion that the press release issued by WIPA on October 3rd 2014 was “inaccurate”. Contrary to the misinformation contained in your now public e-mails to me, the new agreement between WIPA and the WICB reflects the following increases in match fees (15% across the board) and retainer contracts (ranging from 12.5% to 25%), along with the introduction of two (2) new contract categories :

Match Fees Previous New
Test match $5,000.00 $5,750.00
ODI $2,000.00 $2,300.00
T20I $1,500.00 $1,725.00

Retainer Contracts Previous New
Category A+ (new) $150,000.00
Category A $120,000.00 $135,000.00
Category B+ (new) $125,000.00
Category B $100,000.00 $115,000.00
Category C $80,000.00

You have expressed, purportedly on behalf of all of the players currently in India, the belief that
“…this present WIPA Executive under your leadership has failed to properly represent the best interest of ALL the players.” While we respect your right to express this belief, the fact is that this WIPA Executive has made a concerted effort to represent the best interest of the MAJORITY of our membership – as was clearly pointed out at the AGM.

I would like to respond to your suggestion of there being a “special relationship” between WIPA and the WICB which seeks to “embarrass” and “demonize” some players who represent the West Indies, by stating that the relationship which exists between WIPA and the WICB is special only insofar as it is a departure from the adversarial nature which characterized it under WIPA’s previous leadership. My Executive has made a designed effort to operate in an environment of mutual respect and professionalism, with the common goal of providing an opportunity to earn a livable wage for more of your fellow cricketers, while attempting to produce better cricketers. I hope that you would see the value in such an approach.

I note your concern regarding my advising that I would be consulting with members of my Executive before responding to the questions posed in your correspondences of “the past few days”. Your erroneous conclusion that I needed to do so in order to get the answers, once again demonstrates the stark contrast in my approach to leadership as against what was the previous norm. I am not a one man band.

You have advised that you have conducted your own “preliminary investigation” while awaiting my response to your questions, and have shared the results of those investigations with me.
I must let you know that during the course of our negotiations with the WICB, our team of Secretary Wayne Lewis, Treasurer Nixon McLean and myself were provided legal and IR advice by resource personnel who are either members of the Executive of the Federation of International Cricketers Associations (FICA) or resource personnel provided through their offices.

Regarding the negotiation process, I wish to address the following two (2) assertions made in your e-mail of yesterday:

3) None of the players were consulted during and after the negotiations of this purported new MOU. This is a process that has been the common practice between previous WIPA representatives and the players. This was completely ignored.

4) The Players were never given the opportunity to consider the document (MOU) and approve it before it was signed consistent with past practice.
I am sure you will recall that prior to my current role at WIPA, I have held several positions within the Association’s executive – including that of Vice President from 2006 to 2012. While I am willing to concede that best practices may not have been observed by not sharing the document with any but a small group of our members, I cannot agree with your above assertions that “this has been the common practice between previous WIPA representatives and the players’ or that players have previously been given “the opportunity to consider the document (MoU) and approve it before it was signed consistent with best practice”.

I must also refute the following assertion:
10) WIPA is receiving in addition to the 3% of all players earnings, a sum of $500,000.00 USD annually from WICB (1% 0f WICB Revenue) once this new agreement remains.

The assertion is wrong on 2 counts:
WIPA does not receive 3% of all players’ earnings. In fact there are many of our members who contribute nothing to the Association by way of dues – including a number of them who are currently on tour in India. May I also remind you that it was this current WIPA executive which (at the request of some “senior players”) reduced the percentage of players’ earnings to be paid over as dues from the previous 5% to the current 3%.

Your equating 1% of the WICB’s projected revenues over the current 4 year cycle of the new MoU to $500,000 annually is significantly inflated.

You have asked a number of questions regarding the finances of the WICB in your correspondence of October 7th and I respond by advising that disclosure of the WICB’s annual revenues to WIPA is an obligation of the WICB embedded at Article 8 of the new MoU.
In the midst of this response, I acknowledge receiving further correspondence from you (received today October 8th at 2:46 a.m., Jamaica time) which repeats much of what has been previously communicated, and which inter alia:

Calls for the immediate and unconditional resignation of myself as President & CEO, and of the other members of the current WIPA executive “who may have a conflict of interest.”
Suggests that this would allow you and the other players “the right to seek the necessary advice of professional advisors who we have confidence in and take the necessary course of action as we see fit.”

Advises us that you “shall inform the WICB that they are to not take any instructions from any of the Officers until such time as we are able to consult with the members of WIPA to put in an interim measure that is acceptable to all.”

I must take this opportunity to remind you that there is a process embedded in WIPA’s Memorandum & Articles of Association regarding the election and removal of officers, and that your call for some members of the current executive and Board to resign is not supported by that process. We were placed here by the rules of our Association, and will leave only according to the will of the majority of our membership as provided for in those rules. There will be no resignation by any member of the current executive as our negotiating team considered they had a mandate, took legal and industrial relations advice, consulted with members from time to time, if not all members, acted diligently and in good faith in the interest of all members mindful of our fiduciary duties as Directors, and are of the view that they acted and fulfilled their duties properly in all the circumstances, including the subsequent ratification of the signing of the new agreement by the Directors present at our Board meeting held in Jamaica on October 2nd, 2014.

Notwithstanding, you are free to continue to engage the advisors whom you have already consulted, or any others, as we seek to find a solution to what I still believe is a salvageable situation. We are happy to have any discussions with you to reach an amicable resolution to this present difference.

Your intention to inform the WICB that they are not to take any instruction from this current executive has no merit, as the duly elected executive of the WIPA is the only body which the WICB will recognize and deal with in matters to do with West Indian cricketers.

I note also the reference made in your e-mail of October 7th to the alleged “confusion” on my part stemming from the “….plethora of positions that you occupy being Chairman of Selectors for Jamaica Senior team, a Board member of the Jamaica Cricket Association and the dual role of President and CEO of WIPA have in some way contributed to the confusion or perhaps being a member of the same club as Mr. Cameron in some way may have clouded your judgment”.

In responding to the above I must remind you of your own involvement with the club to which Mr. Cameron and I belong, you having played for Kensington CC at our invitation at the start of your career in 2004. How ironic that you have been elevated to the captaincy of the West Indies ODI team under Mr. Cameron’s presidency

I also refer to the following statement in your e-mail of October 8th calling for my resignation:”…..we the players have now lost all confidence in your ability to properly represent the players in any meaningful way and as such, we are calling on the Officers of WIPA and any of those who may have a conflict of interest to tender their resignation unconditionally with immediate effect.”

Where was the conflict of interest when the former President and CEO of WIPA was invited to sit, and accepted a seat, on the WICB’s Board of Directors in 2006?

It is both unfortunate and surprising, that your “advocacy” on behalf of the players has been coloured with personal attacks on my competence and integrity considering the history of our relationship. You should never forget where you are coming from, and who you have met along the way to the current location in your life’s journey.

Wavel Hinds
President & CEO, West Indies Players Association
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Oh dear, some posters will have to re evaluate their pre held beliefs.

I'm waiting to see the old and new deals side by side before I make a definitive call.

Right now Bravo is looking a lot more culpable than yesterday....oops missed it.

Hinds says, there have been increases, so either we will have a public e mail war or someone will have to climb down.

My moneys on Bravo.......after some more back and forth.

I give thanks CHG is not involved, emotions would have been thru the roof.
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Gils,

Well I am clearly one of those but I will let this unfold a bit more.

I cannot believe players will vote to have their sponsorship monies redistributed!!!
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More here....

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestne ... -president" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is what I was waiting on, before giving my views. I needed to hear from both sides, and this is interesting.

Bravo can't deny he was at the meeting, and so were Shiv and Sarwan, so they can't claim ignorance. The question is this - did they understand what Wavell Hinds and Michael Hall were saying, or did the words and presentations of those two university-educated Jamaicans go over their heads? I suspect the latter....

Bravo's not the brightest spark on the planet, and I suspect he was too dazzled by Hall's presentation to know what it really means.

Hinds and Hall may win the battle, but they will lose the war. If their salaries are cut in real terms, what motivation will these West Indies players have to choose the Windies over the IPL come the England Tests in April?

As we've discussed, Gils, more retirements from Test cricket to come...we already have Sammy officially, and Rampaul unofficially.
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The fundamental claim from both sides is WI trying to create parity between regional and international salaries.

All while maintaining club cricket at a level below fc :evil:. That all parties wish to evade this pink elephant will mean ultimately, that WI cricket is the loser, both players and WIPA plus the fans and WICBC.

As I see it, Bravo let off all his ammunition, and Wavell is still standing. He also only has one job to lose.

Wavell is not faced with such a dilemma however, one flaw in his rebuttal I see is " you got the captaincy during Dave's watch " - well........if, Bravo is not the most cerebral of characters - it clearly reflects poorly on the chap who appointed him - Dave Cameron :!:

FICA applauded the agreement between WIPA and WICBC in Sep, Bravo et all agreed to the T's and C's prior to that, so the timing of his letter and absence of all the relevant facts/figures is something he will likely be forced to address.

I just cant see what other course of action he can take, other than to call Wavell a liar, quit the post and go play T20, or climb down and admit he wasn't suitably " prepard ".

If that's the case yes, I also expect more seniors to au revior.

None of this would have happened if Sammy was still Cappo ha haha ha haha ha ha haha ha haha ha ha
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Mail wrote:Gils,
Well I am clearly one of those but I will let this unfold a bit more.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, condemnation before all the facts are in is something else again.

Blaming WICB makes you right 99 out of 100, ( I do it all the time :lol: ) which is very easy and straight forward to do, and in this instance they arent totally abosolved from blame as they can clearly see Wavell has more than one position when in negotiations.

It still comes down to proper practises, due dilligenge, transparency and accountability, no different from the palavar with the Bajan CEO, so although not directly involved they still in part create the environment it takes palce in.
I cannot believe players will vote to have their sponsorship monies redistributed
That seems like the main claim, but Wavell is reffering directly to minutes in the AGM, while Bravo is talking about " what we agreed " ............

AFAIK He is JCA selector and WIPA pres, :?: Does he hold more posts.
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Okaaayy
Board member of the Jamaica Cricket Association
Chairman of Selectors for Jamaica Senior team
President of WIPA
CEO of WIPA
Wavell must be a busy guy :?: I wonder what he does on the weekends.
1) Our Test/ODI/T20 fees have been decreased by 75%
2) No compensation for the use of our rights. That has been decreased by 100%
3) Our ICC fees have been decreased by close to 100%
As I see it, Bravo lists 10 items of contention, then goes on to lay out the main gripe, but...
Contrary to the misinformation contained in your now public e-mails to me, the new agreement between WIPA and the WICB reflects the following increases in match fees (15% across the board) and retainer contracts (ranging from 12.5% to 25%), along with the introduction of two (2) new contract categories :

Match Fees Previous New
Test match $5,000.00 $5,750.00
ODI $2,000.00 $2,300.00
T20I $1,500.00 $1,725.00

Retainer Contracts Previous New
Category A+ (new) $150,000.00
Category A $120,000.00 $135,000.00
Category B+ (new) $125,000.00
Category B $100,000.00 $115,000.00
Category C $80,000.00
As the palavers .... I mean players, are the ones making the claim, it is they who will be required to provide the supporting evidence, or something.
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These players and Sarwan were in attendance but surely something as deep reaching as this would have to be voted upon by all its members at the meeting, postal votes, block votes etc.

I am at a loss to comprehend why Bravo would make certain claims is they are unfounded.
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Wavell winning the battle, but losing the war....

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/sports/W ... 66421.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'“It is our view, given the circumstances of the formulation and finalising of this agreement, the WIPA Board needs to do the right thing and resign. We wish to formerly advise you that WIPA has no authority to speak on our behalf. We also note that we finally got a response yesterday from Mr. Hinds. However, his response leads us to pose more questions than the “answers” provided. There were many inaccuracies in Mr Hinds’ letter to which we will provide a detailed response in due course. We will advise you of the person or persons entrusted with the responsibility to act on our behalf shortly,” Bravo stated. “As you are aware, as an act of good faith and in the spirit of camaraderie that epitomises regional cricket, we conceded to go forward with the first One-Day match in India with the expectation that we would resolve the critical matter of all our contractual terms,” Bravo wrote yesterday on behalf of the players on tour in India. “Our decision to play in India was in no way intended to convey an acceptance by the players of the unreasonable terms and conditions put forward to us by WICB nor was it intended as an expression of our acceptance of the purported new Memorandum of Understanding (MOU),” Bravo reiterated. Bravo said the players have collectively determined that they will not accept any contracts arising out of an agreement if they have not been privy to the terms and conditions resulting in the contents of such contracts. The process that has been supposedly undertaken on the players’ behalf is “in our view a breach of trust, a clear lack of transparency and violation of our rights. It would therefore be not only imprudent, but immoral to consider such representative action to be in any way appropriate or right.” The ODI captain said the players proposed to continue under the old structure until a new agreement is reached between the players and WICB. “Neither the WICB nor the players would be disadvantaged by such a mutually agreed arrangement. We believe this to be a sensible and reasonable option in the interim, while we negotiate new terms and conditions that have been properly ventilated,” he said. Bravo further indicated that the players had demonstrated much restraint in this matter in trying “to get our former representatives to fix this travesty but unfortunately this has not occurred. We are hopeful that, with your intervention, the matter can be resolved without public or other recourse. In the meantime we will continue to seek advice. We look forward with urgency to your reply and direction with regard to settling this matter amicably and in the best interests of all the parties,” the correspondence, signed by Bravo on behalf of the West Indies team, concluded.'

The return of Ramnarine?
:P
This cutting of pay is only part of it, I'm willing to bet...the "stars" them still vex 'bout the way Narine was treated coming back from KKR. And the "stars" them vex about the England Tests clashing with the IPL, I'm sure.
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Bravo fail to realise exactly why Wavell is both president and CEO, no one else wanted the wuk.

Wavell and Cameron fail to tell them the increase in pay is reflrcted in the A plus contracts. That the WICBC wont be handing those out so freely is another story again.
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