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Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby BallOil » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:16 am

If I could offer you a free ticket to any day's play in the history of cricket, which would you pick?

THE MAGIC TICKET

Sitting here at my desk in the early hours of Tuesday morning, I know there is a long week's work ahead. And, looking out at the grey London landscape, I can't help but think of all the places I would rather be right now. Australia would be first among them, 36 years ago to the day, just so long as I had a seat at the Waca for the second day's play between Australia and West Indies.

Perth, 13 December 1975. Australia would have been an odd place to be at the time. The Federal elections were being held that very day. On the eve of the match Malcolm Fraser, prime minister in a minority coalition government, was caught in a rumpus outside Northcote town hall and was spat on and pelted with beer cans by a mob. More disturbingly still, there were real worries that the country was going to be affected by a beer drought, because of a strike at the Carlton & United breweries. And on the 13th itself a fire broke out in one of the new skyscrapers being built in downtown Perth, so the city sky was back with smoke.

The West Indians were providing the back page distraction from all this. They were not even supposed to be touring there that winter – South Africa were due to instead – but Australia had joined the sporting boycott against apartheid. West Indies, who had beaten Australia in the World Cup final that year, offered to step in to fill the empty summer schedule. They had been hammered in the first Test at Brisbane. Michael Manley, writing with the kind of schoolmasterly tone that you can only use if you have served as prime minister of your country for eight years, described it as a "disgraceful performance" in his History of West Indies Cricket. "Everybody was going for their shots as if it was a one-day game … wickets were literally thrown away."
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby Googley » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:05 am

Bliss it must have been to be alive and in the Waca that morning, as Fredericks, slight in stature yet so severe in his strokeplay, dismantled one of the greatest fast bowling backs the game has known on one of the quickest pitches ever produced. Plenty of similar swashbuckling innings have been played, but rarely against a better attack or on a trickier surface. As Gideon Haigh put it: "It was a contest of two natures. The Australians knew no other way to bowl, and Fredericks favoured no other sort of batting."


yet some skunts would not pick this man in their WI IX!

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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby Googley » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:08 am

"There has, probably never been a better or more willing exponent of the hook," wrote Mike Selvey. "You can't tell nobody to hook," Fredericks reckoned. "It's about confidence. It is in you."


is that why Guyanese batsmen are such great hookers?! 8-)

Guyana pitches are all flat and slow....
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby howzdat » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:09 pm

I remember the Perth knock so well and those memories make the hair on the back of my neck stand-up. Roy Fredericks was one of the most fearless batsmen playing in the era before helmets and the body armour etc! I remember seeing him play against New Zealand and Australia as well as quite a few regional games, however it was in the games against the Australia that I came to realise that he was a brilliant player of pace/fast bowling.

He really ought to be counted amongst the greats and as for his "hooking" boy that was a joy to see! As a left hander myself I remember studying the MCC coaching manual regarding the execution of the hook shot and watching Fredericks play it was to observe poetry in motion. He would get into position so quickly and as I recall he was equally adept when hooking from inside and outside the line - and he hit the ball hard! Thanks for the memories!

Towards the latter stages of this walk down memory lane I remembered attending a coaching session run by Fredericks and him teasing me as he saw my frustration growing after being beaten on the forwad defensive a couple of times. And then finally after swinging the bat and connecting with one he grinned his broad smile at me and said, "Yuh feel good now, eh?". And as I replied in the affirmative he pointed out to me that in a real game I would have been caught at mid-off for nought.
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby howzdat » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:19 am

"The quicker you bowled, the harder he hit 'em"

If you will, stay with it till the end and look at the scoreboard and work out the scoring rate, and yes as Chappell said they were 8 ball overs, nonetheless 585 in 95.4 overs aint to be sneezed at. That was some knock. RIP Roy Fredericks.
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby Arnik » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:07 am

Googley:
While a case could be made for Fredericks in a World XI it would be hard to pick him ahead of others.

The 169 at Perth is undoubtedly a great innings but it is one innings. His average against the Australians is below 40, 38.18.

Remember the 75 world cup final where Roy was out hit wicket attempting to hook Lillee. Reds talked about "Fredericks mashing down his wicket" - LOL.
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby mikesiva » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:13 pm

I was too young to remember that great innings, but I've read so much about it since....
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby mapoui » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:27 am

mikesiva wrote:I was too young to remember that great innings, but I've read so much about it since.... 8-)


that innings put the fear of god into the Oz in 1975-76. that and Lloyds 149 and roberts rolling over them. Roberts stunned them. they did not know what hit them.

yu see what chappell admitted..that the westindies did not know then how good they were and the Oz were happy about that.

I lived in Toronto by then and when I saw it in the news papers I was not sooprised. I knew freddo was a champion since back in the late sixties and was capable of such batting.

but the westindies went into the Sobers decline when he came in, then briefly during Kanhai's leadership... and only steadied when Lloyd became captain. thats when Fredo really came into his own.

and look at chappel talking about Freddos ark or hiting from square to mid-on on the off side. Freddo hit around the wicket and hooked like no tomorrow.

I used to like that Gregg Chappell but he is a kind of idiot really :x :x
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby Googley » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:47 am

and look at chappel talking about Freddos ark or hiting frow square to mid-on on the off side. Freddo hit around the wicket and hooked like no tomorrow.

I used to like that Gregg Chappell but he is a kind of idiot really


Maps, know your Chappell!!! that was Ian talking, not Gregg! :D
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Re: Roy Fredericks aka Kid Cement

Postby Arnik » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:04 am

mapoui wrote:and look at chappel talking about Freddos ark or hiting frow square to mid-on on the off side. Freddo hit around the wicket and hooked like no tomorrow.


De hooking also caused him to mash down his wicket in de world cup final.

Oldsters only seem to remember the good times - ha ha ha ha ha.
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