Fletcher, Charles & Brathwaite headline new Sagicor HPC squad

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[Arnik]

No one from the 2010 squad has made an impact yet and some who went seem to have regressed so...........

[AFRO]

LOL this was not the squad i was expecting, a lot of older players are involved which i guess isn't a bad thing, when i contacted the WICb earlier this year i sent them a list of players they should consider, it looks like they listened to my advice because half of the team i selected is there!! , i think this team will be a force in the four day competition that's for sure,

Charles
Ottley
Fletcher
Barcley
Hope
Lesporis
Hamilton (wk)
Brathwaite
Cariah
Dawes
Cotterrell
Warrican

Honestly? THAT'S A DAMN GOOD SIDE TO RHATID!! , especially that bowling unit who will give every side in the region problems, I'D PUT MONEY ON THAT.

[AFRO]

No one from the 2010 squad has made an impact yet and some who went seem to have regressed so...........

Not true, Gabriel made his test debut and so did Powell, Bonner has also played for WI and many of the others are in the A-team right now.

[mikesiva]

No one from the 2010 squad has made an impact yet and some who went seem to have regressed so...........

Not true, Gabriel made his test debut and so did Powell, Bonner has also played for WI and many of the others are in the A-team right now.

Powell and Bonner have not quite progressed....

It's one thing to play for the Windies when you haven't earned selection, it's quite another to make a statement indicating that you should stay there. As for Gabriel, if it's a stress fracture in the back, then his career could be seriously threatened.

Sagicor HPC Squad 2010
Brandon Bess – Guyana (become a fringe player in Guyana team)
Nkrumah Bonner – Jamaica (disappointing with bat, but at least taking wickets)
Shamarh Brooks – Barbados (appointed captain, but not earning place in XI)
Rajendra Chandrika – Guyana (dropped by Guyana after poor start)
Keron Cottoy – St Vincent & The Grenadines (who?)
Kyle Corbin – Barbados (seems to have forgotten how to bat)
Andre Creary - Jamaica (is he out with injury?)
Shane Dowrich – Barbados (at least he looks good....)
Shannon Gabriel – Trinidad & Tobago (back injury could be career-threatening)
Jason Holder – Barbados (has potential as an ODI allrounder)
Delorn Johnson – St Vincent & The Grenadines (potential, but not delivered yet)
Kevin McClean – Barbados (good domestic season, in A team now)
Veerasammy Permaul – Guyana (got place on A team ahead of more deserving lefties)
Kieran Powell – St Kitts & Nevis (Surely he's Antiguan? Has shown he's not ready for Tests)
Devon Thomas – Antigua & Barbuda (can't bat, so no improvement on Ramdin & Baugh)

[AFRO]

LOL typical of Mike!!!.. NEGATIVE as usual!! .

Bess= still plays for Guyana, was injured back came straight back into the team when fit
Bonner= played for the t20 wi team, scored a ton for the A-team and took wickets against aus
Brooks= still plays for bim but better players like kyle hope are ahead of him
Chandrika= hasn't done too bad for the a-team but form dipped and got dropped, he'll be back
Cottoy= has Shillingford and Mathurin ahead of him so it's tough for the yute to play
Corbin= was one of the best batters two seasons ago, could be the best keeper in the region
Creary= got injured at HPC and has barely played since
Dowrich= top class and has a big future, right now he's in england
Gabriel= made it to test level and done well, back injury not that bad from what i hear
Holder= the next ambrose and will play for wi in ALL FORMS of the game
Johnson= has had injuries but he's got a big future too
Mcclean= fc record speaks for it's self and he's in the A-team on merit
Permaul= hasn't FAILED at international level like Miller and has more variations
Powell= he's shown glimpses of class and averaged over 40 when he first got called up for WI
Thomas= yep he's useless

[mapoui]

at this stage any argument between miller and permaul must consider todays facts not a comparison between miller years ago and the permaul of today.

Miller currently is a different story.

the SAGICOR mistake with Corbin and Bonner was to take them out of their comfort zone, the oneS they arrived at the academy in. in need of batsmen they made Corbin take off the gloves and Bonner take up the bat.

what I learned about coaching almost from the start is that coachinG must never do that but allow players to develop fully doing what comes natural. if specilisation is to take place it must occur n its own basically, according to how careers develop, the situations players face and what is required of them in the game situations as they go.

IT IS UTTERLY RISKY WITH CAREERS TO DO THAT WITH PLAYERS. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT PRINCIPLE IS ENSHRINED IN COACHING MANUALS...THE BOOKS BY WHICH COACHES ARE TAUGHT TO COACH..THE COACHING BIBLES!

WHY IN THE HELL WOULD COACHING DO THAT WITH WESTINDIAN PLAYERS AND NO ONE SAY A DAMM THING..WHEN THE PLAYERS INVOLVED, FROM SUCCESSFUL STARTS HAVE FAILED CONSISTENTLY AFTER BEING ASKED TO DO EXCLUSIVELY WHAT THEY HAD NEVER DONE IN THEIR IN LIVES UP TO THEN

at some point deep into his career Sangakara decided to take off the gloves, Sobers decided to bowl fast, then wrist spin in addition to the left arm spin in came into test cricket as. he had displayed batting ability from the start, then in turn all his other forms.

all the unique players were alowed to develop in their own way, according to their experience what was demanded of them by the conditons they actually faced

SO WHO TURNED CORBIN AND BONNER AROUND

It had to be skunt Toby Radford, now working his magic for the westindies.

and worse yet as they are calling him assisstant coach already we may see him as the Big Bimbos successor..a true disaster in the making.

worse appears lined up for westindies cricket with an asshole like Radford at its head. and now Sagicor has put another englishman in charge.

THATS A BECKLES THING..A BLAC ENGLISHMAN IF THERE EVER WAS ONE

ARE QUALIFIED WESTINDIANS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED FOR HEAD OF SAGOCOR

[mapoui]

I am happy there is an academy in the westindies....apparently severeal now.

but I can never be happy, confident and relaxed with anything in the hands of Sir Hillary Beckles, a bajan. once his hand is in regarding westindian life it is bound to be pock-marked and threatening of westindian interest.

we need academies but none would have been better than one set up and run by that man.

by the time Beckles is done we will be counting destroyed players by the dozen. Corbin and Bonner are already in trouble by coaching interference. so too is Kraigg who was forced too early. and Beckles had his hand in that too.

and I am sure there are more players so troubled due to sagicor I have not noticed. and lots more to come.

westindies cricket is in real trouble. worse is to come for the very structure of our game has been infiltrated and taken over by the enemy..position from which they can screw the future by screwing the yutes

[mapoui]

that in fact is the revolution Beckles was talking about indeed...a reverse one, opposite to the one he actually described. he hid the real revolution in the folds of the one he described.

typical propagandist, saying the opposite to what he really intends..but preparing the peole for it anyway.

'a revolution is going to take place. he warns of it, gives notice of it' and change does take place..revolutionary change..but horifically bad change..not positive change. the people warned of the change see it taking place and watches without intervening because they have been warned.

things get even worse but the people do not intervene..as if mesmerized by the lie. as if having real difficulty working out the sense of it, its structure..cant figure it out

Beckles is having a very destructive effect on westidies cricket. he is deeply involved in al that is going on. he is the grissly intellectual eminence behind all that is taking place. his intent is to tame westindies cricket for his masters, to destroy every vestige of independence it once enjoyed as basis of westindian social unity and revolutionary fervor.

the players union is the last remaining focal of all that. that union has been the wicb target all along. Sagicor has been preparing young players to be union averse. the current captain of the westindies team is totally averse to the union..un-heard of in westindian recent cricket history.

beckles... a westindian political/academic/financial powerhouse... by his recent run of speeches on westindian cricket, and the content of those speeches, has exposed himself to be the mastermind behind it all.

[DMan]

LOL typical of Mike!!!.. NEGATIVE as usual!! .

Bess= still plays for Guyana, was injured back came straight back into the team when fit
Bonner= played for the t20 wi team, scored a ton for the A-team and took wickets against aus
Brooks= still plays for bim but better players like kyle hope are ahead of him
Chandrika= hasn't done too bad for the a-team but form dipped and got dropped, he'll be back
Cottoy= has Shillingford and Mathurin ahead of him so it's tough for the yute to play
Corbin= was one of the best batters two seasons ago, could be the best keeper in the region
Creary= got injured at HPC and has barely played since
Dowrich= top class and has a big future, right now he's in england
Gabriel= made it to test level and done well, back injury not that bad from what i hear
Holder= the next ambrose and will play for wi in ALL FORMS of the game
Johnson= has had injuries but he's got a big future too
Mcclean= fc record speaks for it's self and he's in the A-team on merit
Permaul= hasn't FAILED at international level like Miller and has more variations
Powell= he's shown glimpses of class and averaged over 40 when he first got called up for WI
Thomas= yep he's useless

I'm sorry but I was really cracking up over that statement.