There is a bit of uneasiness in the camp. They ruling by fear. WICB obviously have a plan where they are working to push out players for yes men (see Gibson comments). Look how they treated Shiv the veteran, a proven player on the team against England and Indian. What kind of message they are sending to lesser accomplished players? How do you think Bravo and Sarwan felt when Sammy came ahead of them against England?
Was Sarwan and Bravo in the bathroom shitting or pissed off with the Sammy/Ottis decision for him to bat at 3?
There are a lot of this going on behind the scenes in this team... Richie is there for a reason.. They will all come to light sooner than later. These are some nasty ppl running we cricket..
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well...that was my analysis yesterday and the day before. they are in the process of building a team tha sammy is capable of leading, in which his place would seem more jsutified.
were I any of Sarwan, Shive, Big B, Edwards, Taylor I would retire right now...if I could not get the whole team to quit immediately...unless sammy were dropped and a suitable leader appointed by player consensus.
I would not seek to lead such were I gayle for I have compromised myself beyond repair so would leave such to others who have not.
the whole team shud quit on sammy. and no one at all shud agree to play for the westindies until the whole rotten wicb was cleaned up.
had I the money of a Sandford I would pay the players not to play for the wicb...all of them... while I organised in the westindies alternative competitions in which all the players would get something..at least to cover kit and travelling
were I any of Sarwan, Shive, Big B, Edwards, Taylor I would retire right now...if I could not get the whole team to quit immediately...unless sammy were dropped and a suitable leader appointed by player consensus.
I would not seek to lead such were I gayle for I have compromised myself beyond repair so would leave such to others who have not.
the whole team shud quit on sammy. and no one at all shud agree to play for the westindies until the whole rotten wicb was cleaned up.
had I the money of a Sandford I would pay the players not to play for the wicb...all of them... while I organised in the westindies alternative competitions in which all the players would get something..at least to cover kit and travelling
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Excellent observation... Fasten your seatbelt Hunte going give the Windians a rough ride in the backlands...mapoui wrote:well...that was my analysis yesterday and the day before. they are in the process of building a team tha sammy is capable of leading, in which his place would seem more jsutified.
were I any of Sarwan, Shive, Big B, Edwards, Taylor I would retire right now...if I could not get the whole team to quit immediately...unless sammy were dropped and a suitable leader appointed by player consensus.
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power corrupts! total unaccountable power also produces insanity! such power must be a minority power, achieved by conquest and exploitaion of people and mainatined by force, not by a democratic, participatory consensus, that trains the people to be citizens.
especialy when such a power has grown old, having outlived any shred of social usefulness it ever had and produced in the interest of the people, such power goes nuts, for it is totally irrelevant, accomplishes nothing useful in its routine processes, maintaining itself by the most ruthless, arbitrary, destructive and pointless actions and programs.
that is the westindian neo-colonial power, a power that refused true independence, exists as a satrapy of empire, and as such maintains a social backwardness in the westindies totally opposed to modern reality, keeps the westindian people at levels of existence consistent with hewing wood and drawing water while the world is working with advanced computers,
the content of westindian education is a forrin organsed content of irrelevant shit, that does not serve westindian interests of nationlist human development. in the westindies ordinary folk are born in backwardness, crime, delinquency, unemployment and irelevance. but westindians cannot change that reality even when they come to understand that the cause of their problems is the way regional society functions, in whose interest it functions, and the nature of the westindian elite and its butressing middle clases.
in the old british empire now called the commonwealth, the westindies remains the most backward part
especialy when such a power has grown old, having outlived any shred of social usefulness it ever had and produced in the interest of the people, such power goes nuts, for it is totally irrelevant, accomplishes nothing useful in its routine processes, maintaining itself by the most ruthless, arbitrary, destructive and pointless actions and programs.
that is the westindian neo-colonial power, a power that refused true independence, exists as a satrapy of empire, and as such maintains a social backwardness in the westindies totally opposed to modern reality, keeps the westindian people at levels of existence consistent with hewing wood and drawing water while the world is working with advanced computers,
the content of westindian education is a forrin organsed content of irrelevant shit, that does not serve westindian interests of nationlist human development. in the westindies ordinary folk are born in backwardness, crime, delinquency, unemployment and irelevance. but westindians cannot change that reality even when they come to understand that the cause of their problems is the way regional society functions, in whose interest it functions, and the nature of the westindian elite and its butressing middle clases.
in the old british empire now called the commonwealth, the westindies remains the most backward part
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the current wicb is like a fossil...a social fossil, like watching ancient history unfold before ones eyes in the modern world
this must be exactly the way the westindies cricket functioned in the 18-sixties when it all began, was all white, enegaged in a struggle to keep the blacs in their place, while maintaining colonial society.... which meant white priviledge or apartheid.
that situation ultimately evolved by 1928 into test status but white apartheid until 19-sixty, when westindies appointed captains like Dennis Atkinson of Barbados to captain westindies when Stollmeye went down injured against australia in 1955.
imagine that..Dennis Atkinson a player as bad as Sammy...while the team contained Worrell, Weekes, Walcott.
what is happening with Darren Sammy at the moment is not new at all FAN. all thats different is the skin colour of the participants, a reversal of sorts. if and when they make skunt sknash captain the irony would be completely complete, with a white man exactly where such as Atkinson used to be in an age of blac control.
this must be exactly the way the westindies cricket functioned in the 18-sixties when it all began, was all white, enegaged in a struggle to keep the blacs in their place, while maintaining colonial society.... which meant white priviledge or apartheid.
that situation ultimately evolved by 1928 into test status but white apartheid until 19-sixty, when westindies appointed captains like Dennis Atkinson of Barbados to captain westindies when Stollmeye went down injured against australia in 1955.
imagine that..Dennis Atkinson a player as bad as Sammy...while the team contained Worrell, Weekes, Walcott.
what is happening with Darren Sammy at the moment is not new at all FAN. all thats different is the skin colour of the participants, a reversal of sorts. if and when they make skunt sknash captain the irony would be completely complete, with a white man exactly where such as Atkinson used to be in an age of blac control.
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ansd to finish the throw-back the wicbc president in 1955 was a 'Potogee' jefe by the name of Errol Dos Santos, a man who would have made Bull Connors and George Wallace when he was a racist look like small change.
that man was incompetent and destructive to a fault, bad-minded, small-minded and manipulative for the production of the most destructive shit you can imagine...
the selection of players like Asgarali and Ganteume of Trinidad in 1957 when they were already 36 years of age, also th captain Goddars... of absolutely no use to the westindies being way past their best.
that 1957 team in england got destroyed purely because of its selection. John Goddard at 38 as the captain...a poor captain at best was totally beyond it as a player by 1957. and as a player at the test level he was never any good anyway
the consistentcy between Errol Dos Santos and Julian Hunte is erie, scary, macabre... 2 totally unruly, maipulative and destructive characters straight out of Dickens victorian england, more Pecksniff than westindian Rae or Stollmeyer as administrators
that man was incompetent and destructive to a fault, bad-minded, small-minded and manipulative for the production of the most destructive shit you can imagine...
the selection of players like Asgarali and Ganteume of Trinidad in 1957 when they were already 36 years of age, also th captain Goddars... of absolutely no use to the westindies being way past their best.
that 1957 team in england got destroyed purely because of its selection. John Goddard at 38 as the captain...a poor captain at best was totally beyond it as a player by 1957. and as a player at the test level he was never any good anyway
the consistentcy between Errol Dos Santos and Julian Hunte is erie, scary, macabre... 2 totally unruly, maipulative and destructive characters straight out of Dickens victorian england, more Pecksniff than westindian Rae or Stollmeyer as administrators