UNCHANGED TEAM FOR THE 3RD ODI!!

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AFRO
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UNCHAGED TEAM FOR 3RD ODI

Bridgetown, Barbados – The WICB Selection Committee has named an unchanged 13 man squad for the Third Digicel One Day International on Thursday April 28th at the Kensington Oval in Barbados.

The West Indies and Pakistan teams travelled from St Lucia to Barbados today and will resume training on Wednesday April 27th at Kensington Oval before their third ODI encounter on Heroes Day – a national holiday.

Pakistan lead the five match series 2-0 after the West Indies took the lone Digicel T20.

The Fourth Digicel ODI will be played on May 2nd, also at the Kensington Oval before the series moves to Guyana for the final Digicel ODI (May 5th) and the First Digicel Test. The second and final Digicel Test is scheduled for Warner Park in St Kitts.

Squad for 3rd Digicel ODI: Darren Sammy (Captain), Dwayne Bravo (Vice Captain), Carlton Baugh, Devendra Bishoo, Darren Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Anthony Martin, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Andre Russell, Marlon Samuels, Lendl Simmons, Devon Smith

Team Management Unit: Ottis Gibson (Head Coach), Richie Richardson (Team Manager), David Williams (Assistant Coach), Desmond Haynes (Batting Consultant), C.J. Clark (Physiotherapist), Hector Martinez Charles (Strength & Conditioning Co-ordinator), Richard Berridge (Video & Statistical Analyst), Philip Spooner (Media Manager), Virgil Browne (Massage Therapist)
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Well that's it then!!..they don't have any intention of winning this series so i guess it's gonna be another 5-0 whitewash for us again!! :evil: , to be honest i'm in utter shock, even the dumbest skunt alive can see that that squad isn't good enough so what do they do? yep pick the same squad again!! :roll:, i'm losing faith each day that does by now, i'm not sure i can be bothered to watch the rest of the ODIs, it's just a total embarrassment.
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UNCHAGED TEAM FOR 3RD ODI


Well that's it then!!..they don't have any intention of winning this series so i guess it's gonna be another 5-0 whitewash for us again!! :evil: , to be honest i'm in utter shock, even the dumbest skunt alive can see that that squad isn't good enough so what do they do? yep pick the same squad again!! :roll:, i'm losing faith each day that does by now, i'm not sure i can be bothered to watch the rest of the ODIs, it's just a total embarrassment.
why you shock you actually expected a change squad ??? these are die hard idiots we dealing with :? :? :? :? :( :( :( :( :(
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UNCHAGED TEAM FOR 3RD ODI

Bridgetown, Barbados – The WICB Selection Committee has named an unchanged 13 man squad for the Third Digicel One Day International on Thursday April 28th at the Kensington Oval in Barbados.

The West Indies and Pakistan teams travelled from St Lucia to Barbados today and will resume training on Wednesday April 27th at Kensington Oval before their third ODI encounter on Heroes Day – a national holiday.

Pakistan lead the five match series 2-0 after the West Indies took the lone Digicel T20.

The Fourth Digicel ODI will be played on May 2nd, also at the Kensington Oval before the series moves to Guyana for the final Digicel ODI (May 5th) and the First Digicel Test. The second and final Digicel Test is scheduled for Warner Park in St Kitts.

Squad for 3rd Digicel ODI: Darren Sammy (Captain), Dwayne Bravo (Vice Captain), Carlton Baugh, Devendra Bishoo, Darren Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Anthony Martin, Ravi Rampaul, Kemar Roach, Andre Russell, Marlon Samuels, Lendl Simmons, Devon Smith

Team Management Unit: Ottis Gibson (Head Coach), Richie Richardson (Team Manager), David Williams (Assistant Coach), Desmond Haynes (Batting Consultant), C.J. Clark (Physiotherapist), Hector Martinez Charles (Strength & Conditioning Co-ordinator), Richard Berridge (Video & Statistical Analyst), Philip Spooner (Media Manager), Virgil Browne (Massage Therapist)
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Well that's it then!!..they don't have any intention of winning this series so i guess it's gonna be another 5-0 whitewash for us again!! :evil: , to be honest i'm in utter shock, even the dumbest skunt alive can see that that squad isn't good enough so what do they do? yep pick the same squad again!! :roll:, i'm losing faith each day that does by now, i'm not sure i can be bothered to watch the rest of the ODIs, it's just a total embarrassment.

Actually, I'm not very surprised. If you consider that the biggest problem in St.Lucia was the batting, then I think that any changes to be made would have had to be that department. The pitch is Barbados should offer more to the faster bowlers, so I expect a better showing from Roach et al. Keeping the pitch in mind, I don't think there will be room for an extra spinner in the team and Bishoo will/should be the lone spinner in the line-up come Thursday.

I don't agree with Martin being in the squad when we already have Bishoo (although the guy had a decent outing in the first match), but given the nature of the wicket in BIM, dropping him is irrelevant given that there mightn't be room for another spinner anyway.

I don't like Sammy either, but he's the captain...sooo...u know the deal with that. Smith is another liability IMO, but with Barath and Gayle now out of the equation we are stuck with him for a while yet.

The MAJOR worry for this next match IMO is the middle order, particularly Samuels and Edwards. Samuels looks woefully out of sorts since his return to the highest level, and both batsmen don't seem to have the deftness required to rotate the scoring in those critical middle orders. Plus, I think that the both of them are a bit "same-ish" in their style at the crease i.e. they don't seem to compliment each other. However, I must admit that I was calling for them to be included before the series started, so I'm not arguing with the choice to give them another chance.

That's my take on things. What changes would you have made?
AFRO
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Good post Cuffman, i was so p/ssed off that i didn't even consider what the pitch would be like in Bim!! :lol: , rumour has it they are preparing one that is PACE FRIENDLY, so hopefully that will help negate the threat of the Pakistan spinners, as for who i would have called up, man i was looking outside the box, i wanted Carlos Brathwaite for Dwayne Bravo, Permaul for Martin and Deonarine for Edwards, another long short would have been Powell for Smith!! :mrgreen: ,

So i guess it will be

Smith
Simmons
Darren
Samuels
Edwards
Bravo
Baugh
Sammy
Russell
Roach
Bishoo

Just like the first game? regardless of the pitch though i don't feel comfortable with just one spinner!!, Pak clearly don't like spin and it bogged them down big style yesterday, i guess we'll have to wait and see, on a positve note if it is a pace friendly track then we should have a decent chance, Paks pacers have been complete garbage thus far :D .
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Shall we expect an unchanged result as well? Any threat from the Pakistani pace attack in Bim?
cuffman
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AFRO wrote:Good post Cuffman, i was so p/ssed off that i didn't even consider what the pitch would be like in Bim!! :lol: , rumour has it they are preparing one that is PACE FRIENDLY, so hopefully that will help negate the threat of the Pakistan spinners, as for who i would have called up, man i was looking outside the box, i wanted Carlos Brathwaite for Dwayne Bravo, Permaul for Martin and Deonarine for Edwards, another long short would have been Powell for Smith!! :mrgreen: ,

So i guess it will be

Smith
Simmons
Darren
Samuels
Edwards
Bravo
Baugh
Sammy
Russell
Roach
Bishoo

Just like the first game? regardless of the pitch though i don't feel comfortable with just one spinner!!, Pak clearly don't like spin and it bogged them down big style yesterday, i guess we'll have to wait and see, on a positve note if it is a pace friendly track then we should have a decent chance, Paks pacers have been complete garbage thus far :D .
Yeah, I too wanted Brathwaite to get a shot for this match especially after his 10 overs in the practice match went for something like 38 along with 3 scalps in a total of 280 odd by PAK! Ideally the man to make way would have had to be...you know who...:oops: This man offers next to nothing with the ball, and he's not good enough with the bat, so he's occupying the space of another genuine all-rounder that really offers something in one department.

I for one, for the sake of balance, would like to have a batting and a bowling all-rounder in my line up. Brathwaite IMO is the leading bowling all-rounder right now in the region. I know some people will say it is Russell, but I'm yet to be sold on Russell. He isn't fast enough to unsettle batsmen IMO like Roach is able to. I don't see any real skill in his bowling i.e. the ability to seam the delivery like a Collymore, or to swing it either; and he's not consistent enough on a line and length to annoy batsmen into a mistake. But that's just me.

We also are missing a bowler who could keep things tidy with a few overs and buy a few wickets if necessary. Not a single one of our top 5 offers us any viable option currently with the ball, so I like your suggestion of Deonarine, although he hasn't done anything considerable lately with the bat to instill confidence. Gayle would have been the ideal man!

Anywayz....this is what I think a better team for BIM would be:

Simmons
Smith :evil:
Lil Bravo
Samuels
Edwards/A good batsman who can bowl useful spin
Big Bravo (Batting all-rounder)
Baugh
Brathwaite/Russell (Bowling all-rounder)
Rampaul/Edwards
Roach
Bishoo

So we have batting up to #8 and a total of 6 bowling options with at least 3 being out-and-out wicket takers.
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Huckle wrote:Shall we expect an unchanged result as well? Any threat from the Pakistani pace attack in Bim?

well sure! wat other result can we expect

pak pace shud also do better at kensington. but westindies batting is supposed to be capable against pace.

as for the team wat happen to Danza hyatt. he did well this dung heap. and while powell started well he got injured

wen is Bravo leaving for IPL?

I too have carlos brathwaite in mind..for sammy. and to replace Bravo I wud go looking for fidel

and I wud also include kyle corbin. he is a better batsman than baugh and a competent keeper. he is worth a shot now..before baugh, whom I still consider a joke of a player!
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and I wud also include kyle corbin. he is a better batsman than baugh and a competent keeper. he is worth a shot now..before baugh, whom I still consider a joke of a player!
Kyle isn't ready for the highest level IMO. For me, until we have someone clearly better, Baugh is the man for now. He has more centuries in less matches at the FC level than Dwayne Bravo, so I'm prepared to give the man a lil run to prove himself. After all, didn't Ramdin get a decent run to prove his 'worth'. :roll:
mapoui
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Fidel Edwards is now a very experienced and good bowler at 28-29 and westindies ought to be looking to take full advantage of his next 3-4 years, which shud be the best of his career seeing that he is well rested and has good support in young roach and taylor.

those 3 shud make each other better and provide a formidable pace attack for the westindies for the next 3-5 years while the youngsters to replace them develop..or even replace them in that period

along with Bishoo and Benn....and even Permaul/kantarsing as a go to guys in case a next spinner is needed at any time...westindies could have a pretty decent bowling attack right now, an attack that can cope with any international batting line-up.

such selection will require the dropping of Sammy, but it is an attack westindies can have right now if the wicb becomes sane suddenly!
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Kyle isn't ready for the highest level IMO. For me, until we have someone clearly better, Baugh is the man for now. He has more centuries in less matches at the FC level than Dwayne Bravo, so I'm prepared to give the man a lil run to prove himself. After all, didn't Ramdin get a decent run to prove his 'worth'
yes! but Bravo has 2-3 test tons. and Bravos dung heap tons were huge and opening the batting aganst the first flush of the oppsition bowling.

baughs FC tons cannot be given the same quality as Bravo's tons

yu may be right about Corbin. but I always had a problem with Baughs intelligence. I have seen him too often throw his wicket away just like that

and this is baughs second run to prove his worth. he had a decent run before Ramdin emerged.

and ramdin has bigger and better tons than Baughs at all levels.

Ramdin has a test ton and Baugh may not even have a test t fifty. I may be wrong but I cant recall at this time
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