Ottis Gibson MUST GO...

[mr. cricket]

look aussie have racism issues india has that as well...pak has its own problems....south africa had the worst issues...but they doing well...i mean to say that these issues are a factor but not the major ones

[mapoui]

@howzdat

education is not that much of a problem ask pakistan team...no one is graduate apart from wicket keeper and misbah

@mapoui

yeah incompetence or i would say mismanagement is hurting WI

education is the process by a society of developing its citizens.

it can and often does include school education at levels from 1 to wherever it goes.

but it never was and is not now an education that is composed entirely of what one learns in school

the greatest scholar the westindies ever produced...and one of he very greatest scholars of all time... was CLR James..a man who never set foot in a university save to teach and lecture

[mapoui]

look aussie have racism issues india has that as well...pak has its own problems....south africa had the worst issues...but they doing well...i mean to say that these issues are a factor but not the major ones

I said nothng that warranted a response like this!

[mr. cricket]

look aussie have racism issues india has that as well...pak has its own problems....south africa had the worst issues...but they doing well...i mean to say that these issues are a factor but not the major ones

I said nothng that warranted a response like this!

you mean i did a sammy

[mapoui]

corruption is almost every where even south african has its share of problems...u heard of mojola sacking....plus selection is quota based hence piterson trott etc....so u know what i wanted to say is it depends on players more than anything else....i believe west indies will be a dangerous team once again by 2013....strongly believe this probably could happen by 2012 but not late than this for sure

true! but we are talkin about the same problem as in the westindies. it is a class/race question in which class is more important that race but in which race is a veru serious factor indeed.

it is the way society has been divided for economic exploitation for a very long time..

we are dealing with the results of that historical process everywhere, in our day and generation, trying to understand it, solve it as best we can.

[mr. cricket]

do all Wi countries have such problems??

[mapoui]

naw..yu did no sammy. yu cant possibly be as bad as dat.

I hope westindies can re-surge as you pose. I really do. but I dont see it! the people who run the westindies do not think like it is necessary for anything at all to go good in the westindies.

look at what they have done so far man. look at the leaders they have produced: Gairy, Bustamante, Patterson, Portia, Burnhan, Bird, Bradshaw, Le Blanc....

go talk to these people, get to know them, see their policies. see the westindies itself, the people, who sit around waiting for messiahs with large pockets to bail them out, to feed them to build up their islands rather than doing it themselves..

waiting for corporations to come and provide jobs for them, even if they are horribly exploited in the process...people who do not even understand the meaning of or the absolute necessity of doing for self for no one can do for you wnat you must do for yourself.

all dat is a product of past expeience that ought to have beed rooted out of the westinain population from indepenence onwards with properly focused education. CLR James told them as much, argued for such developmental process, fought hard for it. they kicked him out, locked him up and drove him from the region

[mapoui]

do all Wi countries have such problems??

all..with the somewhat exception of Bim, which in its britishness has imbibed enuf of british efficiency to run the most effective of all westindian islands.

but the bim elites can be even worse when it comes to locking down their people

[mr. cricket]

by the way i have a question what happens ti WI cricket team if some WI countries develop bad relations with each other??

[mr. cricket]

naw..yu did no sammy. yu cant possibly be as bad as dat.

I hope westindies can re-surge as you pose. I really do. but I dont see it! the people who run the westindies do not think like it is necessary for anything at all to go good in the westindies.

look at what they have done so far man. look at the leaders they have produced: Gairy, Bustamante, Patterson, Portia, Burnhan, Bird, Bradshaw, Le Blanc....

go talk to these people, get to know them, see their policies. see the westindies itself, the people, who sit around waiting for messiahs with large pockets to bail them out, to feed them to build up their islands rather than doing it themselves..

waiting for corporations to come and provide jobs for them, even if they are horribly exploited in the process...people who do not even understand the meaning of or the absolute necessity of doing for self for no one can do for you wnat you must do for yourself.

all dat is a product of past expeience that ought to have beed rooted out of the westinain population from indepenence onwards with properly focused education. CLR James told them as much, argued for such developmental process, fought hard for it. they kicked him out, locked him up and drove him from the region

well u see srilanka from now onwards they are on the same path....they will be windies of late 90s and early 21st centuyry occasional good performance and apart from that consistently flopping and people will start blaming politics economics although the actual reason would be retirement of murali vaas malinga jayasuria and soon to retire doilshan sangakkara and jayawardene u just see it is bound to happen they will falltto no.8 in 2-3 years