CHANDERPAUL: Discarded For Producing Like Blacks

[The Black Prince]

So why was Shiv Chanderpaul discarded from the West Indies oneday team ?

The explanation is very simple. Shiv in 2011 has produced like many black West Indies batsmen.

lissen me(tm gayle)

Rev always said that East Indian batsmen have to be waaaaay better than West Indian(black) batsmen inorder to keep their place on the West Indies team.

Rev said if an east Indian batsman has the same average as a West Indian(black) batsman then the West Indian batsman must play ahead of the East Indian.

We all know that Shiv has a oneday batting average of 41.60 in 268 onedayers.

But that 41.60 batting average dont matter.

What matters is Shiv has averaged only 32.50 in the 7 oneday matches he has played in 2011

Let us check the averages of WI batsmen in onedayers in 2011 so far:

33.55...Ramnaresh Sarwan in 10 onedayers

33.30...Devon Smith in 10 onedayers

32.58...Darren Bravo in 13 onedayers

32.50...Shiv Chanderpaul in 7 onedayers

28.85...Chris Gayle in 8 onedayers

25.66...Dwayne Bravo in 6 onedayers

23.50...Kieron Pollard in 9 onedayers

16.75...Kirk Edwards in 4 onedayers

16.33...Marlon Samuels in 3 onedayers

2011 Oneday average


You see what I'm saying ?

Shiv(32.50 avg) has been producing like a black West Indies batsman.

But black batsmen are judged by a lower standard.

So Shiv(32.50 avg) is discarded and bonafide failures like Devon Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Kirk Edwards and marlon Samuels are allowed to play.


Check this out!

The greatest star in West Indies right now is Darren Bravo.

Darren Bravo averages a magnificent 32.58 in 2011. He is set for life with his 32.58 average.

BUT SHIV GETS DISCARDED WITH A 32.50 AVERAGE!

Rev was right!

Shiv is East Indian and East Indian batsmen are not allowed to be mediocre.



ONLY BLACK WI BATSMEN ARE PERMITTED TO BE MEDIOCRE!

[jala]

Boomer, why u always with this racist crap!...u dingbat!

[mapoui]

bring it on BP!!
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dat which is in everybodys mind but is not being spoken!

[The Black Prince]

jala:

Dont confuse me with Boomer!

Anyway, surely you are not denying that Shiv was discarded from the oneday team because his average(32.50) in 2011 was mediocre like the black batsmen ?

The prejudiced scoundrels running West Indies cricket, people like Gibson, Butts and Hillaire, couldn't be happier that Shiv has started to produce like a black WI batsman.

They have wanted to get rid of the Unity bhai for years now.

How can failures like Devon Smith and Marlon Samuels play ahead of Shiv ?

Anyway, it's all Shiv's fault. He started producing like a mediocre black batsman and was quickly discarded.

[jala]

and u find this funny!....this is very disrespectful to persons of African descent.....

[AFRO]

Prince your argument doesn't really add up though because you're not taking into account SHIV'S AGE!!, the man is 36 and can barely run between the wickets now without putting his fellow batsmen in danger, plus his form over the last year or so has been very poor, comparing him to Darren is stupid because DARREN IS JUST STARTING OUT, if anything Shiv should be ashamed that a yute with MUCH LESS EXPERIENCE is doing better than him right now.

[howzdat]

Dear The Black Prince, I disagree that the evidence you produce supports a view that there is racial bias at play within WI team selection. I hope that you read my words carefully and note that I am not saying there is racial bias - nor am i saying that there isn't - but that the figures you produce do not of themselves support such an assertion. Have you used any uniform qualifying criteria in putting those together?

I see that the players mentioned have played between 4 and 13 one dayers - quite a large spread i think. To put it simply the player with the most games has played just over three times more than the player with the least games. Given this factor what do you think could be the most likely impact on the respective averages? Have you considered the opposition played against or are we just quoting numbers for the sake of it?

I see that you have Marlon Samuels in the list, prior to this current series against Pakistan his last one day game for the West Indies was when? Who did he play against?

We have long heard talk of alleged racial bias in the team's selection and I for one would be horrified if there was actual hard evidence to support this. I see any use of race as a qualifying criteria for a player's inclusion in the West Indies team as wholly unacceptable!

While it matters not much to this topic i would like to point out that in the developed world non-whites are regarded by whites as BLACK!! Some of us may want to nit-pick over whether one complexion is like coffee with no milk or too much milk or just the right amount of milk but the truth is that we are all HUMAN so let us do all we can to foster a spirit of unity. Let us do all we can to ensure that our teams are selected on the basis of merit - but let us do so based on reasoned and rational argument. Otherwise we cannot justly hold those we accuse to account for their actions.

[The Black Prince]

Prince your argument doesn't really add up though because you're not taking into account SHIV'S AGE!!, the man is 36 and can barely run between the wickets now without putting his fellow batsmen in danger...

POPPYCOCK!

You are just prejudiced against Shiv and are using running between wickets as an excuse----a lame excuse to discard the Unity bhai.

Anyway, Check those averages in 2011 again.

At age 36 Shiv is still more productive than most WI batsmen in onedayers.

plus his form over the last year or so has been very poor...

Let's check the numbers!

In 2010, Shiv scored 398 runs in 9 onedayers at an average of 44.22----he had one hundred and 4 fifties.

In 2011, Shiv has averaged 32.50 in 7 matches

Surely Shiv's batting wasn't poor in 2010.

But I would agree with you that Shiv has regressed in 2011----he has produced like a black West Indies batsman.

But still Shiv averages 32.50 in 2011----higher than Marlon samuels(16.33), Kirk Edwards(16.75) and a few more.

comparing him to Darren is stupid because DARREN IS JUST STARTING OUT, if anything Shiv should be ashamed that a yute with MUCH LESS EXPERIENCE is doing better than him right now.

I wasn't comparing Shiv to darren Bravo. I was just pointing out that with a 32.58 oneday average in 2011 Bravo is set for life----while with a 32.50 average in 2011----higher than Samuels, Dwayne Bravo, Kirk Edwards, Pollard, etc, etc----Shiv has been discarded.

[Googley]

no wonder Sarwan get dropped too

[The Black Prince]

Dear The Black Prince, I disagree that the evidence you produce supports a view that there is racial bias at play within WI team selection. I hope that you read my words carefully and note that I am not saying there is racial bias - nor am i saying that there isn't - but that the figures you produce do not of themselves support such an assertion. Have you used any uniform qualifying criteria in putting those together?

lissen me(tm gayle)

Shiv has averaged 32.50 in 7 onedayers in 2011----he has a higher average in 2011 than Dwayne Bravo, Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards, Darren Sammy, etc, etc

But yet he has been discarded!

CONCLUSION:

Shiv is East Indian---and mediocre numbers(32.50 avg in 2011) are not tolerated from East Indian batsmen.

The black boys will get away with mediocre average----not east Indian Shiv.

I see that you have Marlon Samuels in the list, prior to this current series against Pakistan his last one day game for the West Indies was when? Who did he play against?

The fact is Marlon Samuels has played in 109 onedayers and has a piss poor average of 29.92

No way on God's earth a bonafide failure like marlon should play ahead of Shiv----but he is black---and black boys are allowed to fail and fail and fail and fail.

With a 32.50 average in 2011---Shiv was discarded.

Marlon stays with a 16.33 average in 2011.

Clearly a prejudice against the East Indian Shiv!

We have long heard talk of alleged racial bias in the team's selection and I for one would be horrified if there was actual hard evidence to support this. I see any use of race as a qualifying criteria for a player's inclusion in the West Indies team as wholly unacceptable!

Pay attention to what I said.

EAST INDIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN JUDGED BY A HIGHER STANDARD IN WI CRICKET!

While it matters not much to this topic i would like to point out that in the developed world non-whites are regarded by whites as BLACK!! Some of us may want to nit-pick over whether one complexion is like coffee with no milk or too much milk or just the right amount of milk but the truth is that we are all HUMAN so let us do all we can to foster a spirit of unity. Let us do all we can to ensure that our teams are selected on the basis of merit - but let us do so based on reasoned and rational argument. Otherwise we cannot justly hold those we accuse to account for their actions.

Thanks for the effort in replying to my lead post!