Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...

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BallOil
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imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can
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who say dat? not AFRO! AFRO is a much better judge of talent dan dat.

I see deh man identifying good talent at younger levels. there is no way he cyan see 'bow' as batsman capable of #6 in the order...or sammy capable of consistent 20s in tess matches.

muching up dem fellas will not help anybody. redardless of ethnicity we have play the best players.

sammy and bow do not help anyone at all, advances no causes, weakens westindies.
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imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can
:lol: :lol: Tell we more bro... :)
So what are we meant to do? play seven batters and WEAKEN our bowling unit? :roll: as everyone knows Sammy being involved makes things tough, but regardless of that Baugh's batting has been fairly decent for WI of late, he scored a nice 50 in the SL Tests didn't he? and he was impressive in the ODis against them aswell.
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I alwasy suspected Baughs intelligence. I was proved out when they took him to South Africa many years ago, under Lara and Viv.

the batting was suspect somebody was injured before deh brought in Dwayne smith who scored a ton on debut. so deh decided to play Baugh as a batsman purely. I remember a poster on sissy wanted to kill me for insisting dat Baugh wud fail, that his intelligence was the question.

he went out and did exactly as I predicted..twice, in both innings of dat test. I mean I havent been watching cricket fo so long not to have an idea of personality in the game.

since then Baugh has been doing the very same thing over and over again. I was very 'sooprised' when he scord dat 50 in lanka. but dat exception proves the rule.

I saw Baugh batting in the emirates when Gayle had picked his 9 yardies on the westindies side. the totally incompetent Findlay had just been exposed as a batting fool but Baugh was in and acording to the state of the game all was well and needed just sensible batting to get home.

and wat did Baugh do! backed away in a most ridiculous efort to unnecessarily hit a ball, gave the whole wicket to the Pak pacer and was comprehensively bowled. stunningly stupid, unnecessary, pointless etc.

Dyson was livid! appoplectic!

dats the Baugh I know as fundamental Baugh. he cant change. he is lucky to be in the side. I would pik almost anybody other than he. I know he scores ton after ton in dung heap. all dat proves like many before him and with him now, he is a bad bowling bully
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it is too risky to depend on Baugh at #6

there may be no alternative but to do so but I wud not expect any solution from him as batsman.

this Pak side is not so strong. westindies is just weaker dats all. I wud take a chance and play the 4 bowlers, keeper and 6 batsmen.

reason is dat if smith plays we likely have only 5 batsmen.

also simmons is yet to prove out as a test batsman.

and there are concerns about the rest of the batting like Bravo too is young...sarwan and shive have form questions.. and sknash is at most a big fifty to a small ton, after some kind of batting base has been set.

I dont know wat skansh wud do if he had to set the base himself.

westindies batting is suspect all round. and I dont know about the bowling even if we play Baugh at #6 and add a bowler. will the batting socfre so the bowlers can bowl with some protection? and what wud happen if we pik 4 bowlers..i.e 3 and sammy?

what a ridiculous problem for an adminisration to saddle itself with
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BallOil wrote:
imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can
:lol: :lol: Tell we more bro... :)
Balli, please post Baugh's FC average alongside the likes of Dwayne Bravo, Simmons, Hinds, Deornarine, etc....yall are really being disingenuous when it comes to baugh
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jala wrote:
BallOil wrote:
imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can
:lol: :lol: Tell we more bro... :)
Balli, please post Baugh's FC average alongside the likes of Dwayne Bravo, Simmons, Hinds, Deornarine, etc....yall are really being disingenuous when it comes to baugh
Jala, the statement above is that of Afro...

Baugh batted once @ #6 averaging 21 here

BTW, we are talking Test cricket here, FC stats are irrelevant I think ...
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BTW, we are talking Test cricket here, FC stats are irrelevant I think ...
Bally, are you serious??? This statement is identical to the miscreant spewed all over CC on a daily basis! So what other criteria do we have to judge a player's potential to perform at the international level if we are not going to give regard to his FC exploits? What's the point in having a blasted FC competition in the first place then???

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, BAUGH HAS ONLY PLAYED 8 TEST MATCHES!!! I repeat 8!!! You and mapoui can't come here, and with a modicum of seriousness, say that you have seen enough of Baugh to make a decisive and informed judgement that he is absolutely and totally inept at holding down a number 6 spot after only 8 damn matches!

The most pathetic thing with the both of you is that you all are very apologetic in your assessments of the proven shithound Ramdin who, after 42 matches, couldn't muster an average of 25 with the bat. But hey, who really was expecting anything more from a man with an average of 29 in our 'lowly' FC competition? :roll:

Bally, try and engage your brain and answer the questions posed to you here and in another thread about whether or not you would compromise the ability of the team to take 20 wickets by accommodating 7 batsmen along with Sammy in the 11!
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cuffman wrote:
BTW, we are talking Test cricket here, FC stats are irrelevant I think ...
Bally, are you serious??? This statement is identical to the miscreant spewed all over CC on a daily basis! So what other criteria do we have to judge a player's potential to perform at the international level if we are not going to give regard to his FC exploits? What's the point in having a blasted FC competition in the first place then???

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, BAUGH HAS ONLY PLAYED 8 TEST MATCHES!!! I repeat 8!!! You and mapoui can't come here, and with a modicum of seriousness, say that you have seen enough of Baugh to make a decisive and informed judgement that he is absolutely and totally inept at holding down a number 6 spot after only 8 damn matches!

The most pathetic thing with the both of you is that you all are very apologetic in your assessments of the proven shithound Ramdin who, after 42 matches, couldn't muster an average of 25 with the bat. But hey, who really was expecting anything more from a man with an average of 29 in our 'lowly' FC competition? :roll:

Bally, try and engage your brain and answer the questions posed to you here and in another thread about whether or not you would compromise the ability of the team to take 20 wickets by accommodating 7 batsmen along with Sammy in the 11!
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cuffman wrote:
BTW, we are talking Test cricket here, FC stats are irrelevant I think ...
Bally, are you serious??? This statement is identical to the miscreant spewed all over CC on a daily basis! So what other criteria do we have to judge a player's potential to perform at the international level if we are not going to give regard to his FC exploits? What's the point in having a blasted FC competition in the first place then???

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, BAUGH HAS ONLY PLAYED 8 TEST MATCHES!!! I repeat 8!!! You and mapoui can't come here, and with a modicum of seriousness, say that you have seen enough of Baugh to make a decisive and informed judgement that he is absolutely and totally inept at holding down a number 6 spot after only 8 damn matches!

The most pathetic thing with the both of you is that you all are very apologetic in your assessments of the proven shithound Ramdin who, after 42 matches, couldn't muster an average of 25 with the bat. But hey, who really was expecting anything more from a man with an average of 29 in our 'lowly' FC competition? :roll:

Bally, try and engage your brain and answer the questions posed to you here and in another thread about whether or not you would compromise the ability of the team to take 20 wickets by accommodating 7 batsmen along with Sammy in the 11!
FC Stats are irreverent if we are talking strictly about Test ...no? There is a big difference in the standard of cricket between FC and Test, right? As you can see, FC stats don't necessary translate to or equivalent to Tests numbers...For example, Shiv FC 54 & Test 49, Samuels, FC 38 & 28, Gayle FC 44 & 41, Simmons FC 34 & 14, DS Smith FC 37 & 25...
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