India v West Indies, 1st Test
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BallOil
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Dravid gone.... Fidel disrupts the lumber 
47.1 FH Edwards to Dravid, OUT, 141.1 kph, he's bowled 'em! West Indies have got the early wicket, Rahul Dravid has got another superb delivery, pitching fullish just outside off and coming in a long way to uproot two stumps
R Dravid b FH Edwards 31 (101b 3x4 0x6) SR: 30.69
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mikesiva
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Sachin and Laxman march relentlessly on....
How did we get bowled out for 180 on this pitch?
That's where we lost it....
Bishoo gets Sachin! No hundredth hundred for him today....
How did we get bowled out for 180 on this pitch?
That's where we lost it....
Bishoo gets Sachin! No hundredth hundred for him today....
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mikesiva
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Sammy gets Yuvraj's wicket, just as we're about to lose this match....
India win by five wickets.
Normal service resumed....
India win by five wickets.
Normal service resumed....
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howzdat
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Hi all, decided to stay deliberately silent after my last post and contemplate goings-on in the game, from a WI perspective, all by myself. It could be argued that the result was a foregone conclusion given that man-for-man India are a much better side. Which meant that I was looking for continued improvements in performances by the team as a whole.
Did we witness that? Given the second innings batting debacle I couldn't help but note evidence once again of WI inability to put together 3 consecutive sessions of high-class cricket. In part, this failing has to be a mental thing and not solely a consequence of insufficient technical capability.
WI declined from a position of strength in this game on the evening of the second day when they lost 2 wickets for twenty-odd runs. This resulted in them knowing that they would have to start the third day with a rebuilding task (on the back-foot basically) having only moments before earned themselves a first innings lead. So in some ways I agree with mikeseva ... normal service resumed.
Did we witness that? Given the second innings batting debacle I couldn't help but note evidence once again of WI inability to put together 3 consecutive sessions of high-class cricket. In part, this failing has to be a mental thing and not solely a consequence of insufficient technical capability.
WI declined from a position of strength in this game on the evening of the second day when they lost 2 wickets for twenty-odd runs. This resulted in them knowing that they would have to start the third day with a rebuilding task (on the back-foot basically) having only moments before earned themselves a first innings lead. So in some ways I agree with mikeseva ... normal service resumed.
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Silvamaine
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After Day 3, it turned out to be a comfortable win for India.
I'd like to reflect on a few points regarding this test match, being critical i thought it was criminal in the way we threw away the initative after gaining a 95 run lead in the first innings. Credit to India for the way they bowled, the spinners put us under pressure and exposed the inexperience at the top of the order. The potetntial is there, but to be put in a testing situation against a high-ranked team, proved to be too much at this point. The most disappointing aspect of our second innings was the way two of our supposed recognised middle-order batsmen (Bravo and Samuels) were unable to cope with the variation of the Indian spinners. I can understand those kind of misjudgements coming from the lower middle-order and tail, but for them to be duped so easily at this level, all but killed off any chances of making India chase a competitive total. That needs to be addressed and quickly, otherwise the same fate will continue during this series.
Taking some positives out of this match, they did show that if they execute their disciplines and do the basics correctly, they are capable of competing with India. Chanderpaul was as solid and fluent as ever, Braithwaite looked good in the first innings, we bowled well as a collective unit to peg India back to 209 all out. Kirk Edwards has the temperament and technique to make a good number three, but needs to work on his shot-selection/judgement which cost him in both innings after getting a start. Baugh showed a good defence, but lost his wicket in both innings by trying to play attacking shots, when it wasn't necessary, wait for the bad-ball Carlton!!
Overall, India proved too strong and the rankings difference on-paper came through in the end. During the second innings, the experience of the Indian batsmen, showed the Windies counterparts how to put their heads down and play themselves in. The West Indies are still a work in progress with mixed results, but they should be encouraged by some of the performances in this test match and will go in the second test, with some confidence knowing that they have the capability of holding their own, with a little more effort and concentration during the pressure-situations. The only change i'd make for the second test would be Barath (providing he's fit) to come in for Powell.
I'd like to reflect on a few points regarding this test match, being critical i thought it was criminal in the way we threw away the initative after gaining a 95 run lead in the first innings. Credit to India for the way they bowled, the spinners put us under pressure and exposed the inexperience at the top of the order. The potetntial is there, but to be put in a testing situation against a high-ranked team, proved to be too much at this point. The most disappointing aspect of our second innings was the way two of our supposed recognised middle-order batsmen (Bravo and Samuels) were unable to cope with the variation of the Indian spinners. I can understand those kind of misjudgements coming from the lower middle-order and tail, but for them to be duped so easily at this level, all but killed off any chances of making India chase a competitive total. That needs to be addressed and quickly, otherwise the same fate will continue during this series.
Taking some positives out of this match, they did show that if they execute their disciplines and do the basics correctly, they are capable of competing with India. Chanderpaul was as solid and fluent as ever, Braithwaite looked good in the first innings, we bowled well as a collective unit to peg India back to 209 all out. Kirk Edwards has the temperament and technique to make a good number three, but needs to work on his shot-selection/judgement which cost him in both innings after getting a start. Baugh showed a good defence, but lost his wicket in both innings by trying to play attacking shots, when it wasn't necessary, wait for the bad-ball Carlton!!
Overall, India proved too strong and the rankings difference on-paper came through in the end. During the second innings, the experience of the Indian batsmen, showed the Windies counterparts how to put their heads down and play themselves in. The West Indies are still a work in progress with mixed results, but they should be encouraged by some of the performances in this test match and will go in the second test, with some confidence knowing that they have the capability of holding their own, with a little more effort and concentration during the pressure-situations. The only change i'd make for the second test would be Barath (providing he's fit) to come in for Powell.
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KING OF PUNJAB
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pleased we have won and ended or losing streak in tests. well played Tenulkar and Lamxan who held the 2nd innings together. WI had given us a good fight and really pushed us.,
I expect another tough test match in Kollkata
I expect another tough test match in Kollkata
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mapoui
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very good analysis...and quick too. the game just done a few hours ago
Sammuels is the real disappointment. when is this fool going to score some runs for the westindies?
Samuels bowling is very useful in the situation but ultimately cannot not compensate for the runs he must score. he is picked as a batsman not a bowler.
lil Bravo is still young and dat might still be a bit of an excuse..but thats wearing thin as we speak. he must approach batting better than he is doing at the moment. he is stupid, lil Bravo. does not have a head on his shoulders...at lest yet.
maybe with greater experience. but he has to win that chance by scoring now!
a few months ago I recommended dat lil Bravo use Dravid as example in building a successful appraoch to batting. he cant go out there everytime and just play shots all the time at his will.
he is not Lara.
Lara was uniquely gifted, absolutely brilliant...and called the game as a result most times. Lara was hs own style, quality, pioneer.... all rolled into one. lil Bravo is level or 2 below.
the media must stop its constant nonsensical comparison between the two and encouerage lil Bravo to accept himself as lil Bravo alone, a diffrerent man, not as good as Lara was... but who can and must must develop himself as he is, not as Lara was.
Darren Bravo needs to be Darren Bravo, a man who must bat as he can, using his brains as part of his skill set. he cant go out there and do as he is doing and be successful.
lil Bravo must apply himself, adjust to conditions, use his brains on the bowlers, on the tactics used agains him, understanding the field and finding gaps, waiting for the bad ball...even devising calculated attack on bowlers whose tactics and skill set he understands and so can atempt to trash them in a proper, organised manner
Sammuels is the real disappointment. when is this fool going to score some runs for the westindies?
Samuels bowling is very useful in the situation but ultimately cannot not compensate for the runs he must score. he is picked as a batsman not a bowler.
lil Bravo is still young and dat might still be a bit of an excuse..but thats wearing thin as we speak. he must approach batting better than he is doing at the moment. he is stupid, lil Bravo. does not have a head on his shoulders...at lest yet.
maybe with greater experience. but he has to win that chance by scoring now!
a few months ago I recommended dat lil Bravo use Dravid as example in building a successful appraoch to batting. he cant go out there everytime and just play shots all the time at his will.
he is not Lara.
Lara was uniquely gifted, absolutely brilliant...and called the game as a result most times. Lara was hs own style, quality, pioneer.... all rolled into one. lil Bravo is level or 2 below.
the media must stop its constant nonsensical comparison between the two and encouerage lil Bravo to accept himself as lil Bravo alone, a diffrerent man, not as good as Lara was... but who can and must must develop himself as he is, not as Lara was.
Darren Bravo needs to be Darren Bravo, a man who must bat as he can, using his brains as part of his skill set. he cant go out there and do as he is doing and be successful.
lil Bravo must apply himself, adjust to conditions, use his brains on the bowlers, on the tactics used agains him, understanding the field and finding gaps, waiting for the bad ball...even devising calculated attack on bowlers whose tactics and skill set he understands and so can atempt to trash them in a proper, organised manner
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mapoui
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Kieran Powell shud not be opening the batting for the westindies. this is like Campbell and Stuart Williams all over again.
Powell in particular does not have the ability and and batting achievement to score against Indian bowling. he wont make 100 runs total in 6 innings if he plays all 3 tests.
Powel has done nothing in dung heap to warrant a place in test cricket. he is simpy not good enuff. the only factor in his favour is his youth. but even so he must walk with a 40+ average. he does not have that.
Braithwaite does have such an average..but even so he may be at least a year too early in the westindies team. Gibson is pushing it with Braithwaite. he is risking the youth unnecessarily
Powell in particular does not have the ability and and batting achievement to score against Indian bowling. he wont make 100 runs total in 6 innings if he plays all 3 tests.
Powel has done nothing in dung heap to warrant a place in test cricket. he is simpy not good enuff. the only factor in his favour is his youth. but even so he must walk with a 40+ average. he does not have that.
Braithwaite does have such an average..but even so he may be at least a year too early in the westindies team. Gibson is pushing it with Braithwaite. he is risking the youth unnecessarily