Brathwaite and Barath are the way forward!!

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mapoui
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I assumed from cursory effort that Braithwaite had a better average in all cricket than that.

Powell is the man I consider the least of those 3. Barath the best if very suspect physically.

as I said I am not keen on Gayle but he is the best opening batsman we have. farting around with these 3 wont pay.

I dont think Powell has the experience and ability necessary to deal with Indian bowling successfully.

Braithwaite is very talented and dat showed in his fist innings fifty. still dealing with Indian bowling is no bed of roses and he may be a year or 2 too early.

it is kind of ridiculous and unprofessional for a coach to put such batsmen up to face the Indian attack. it smacks not of proper cricket strategy and professionalism but of political agenda.

Gibson must know the fragility of his batting in the circumstamnces yet he does it.

the question that begs is that given the over all composition of the side, the sum total of its abilites and future potetnial, will Gibsom realise a world beating team... or world competititve team... from this collection?


is it worth the risk. westindies were competitive for the first half of the match but thats it
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my answer to that question is a definite no. Gibbo is pissing in the wind.

Braithwaite may have world class..and Barath too but there are plenty questions about both

Powell is not world class from this vantage point.

lil Bravo may have a great deal of potential but he needs to grow a brain. Samuels is a waste of time as a batsman. he is already 30 years of age.

Kirk Edwards is long on determination but Indian bowlin at home is not a depleted India in the westindies. we will see after these 3 where he really is

of the batting Edwards is the only newcomer who has dispayed anything at all of consistentcy. we must wait a bit on Braithwaite, hope Barath gets fit and stays fit so we can see what he really has.

Shive remains the only westindian batsman of class in the side. Sammy is a waste of time and space and his future is now.

in the bowling only Bisho is the future. Rampaul is good but he is not making too much of an impression in India. Edwards is the main man with a very good ROP. but he is 29/30. we have 2 more years of his top effort at best before its time to cut his pace and uses his expereience to out batsmen
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so where is this team of Gibbos going..forcing un-ready young players at the exclusion of better and more experienced players?

it would make sense if the youngsters really had x-ponent talent but deh dont. it seems to me that Gibbo shud be miking the expeiernced players...the best of them not all, developing the best youth in lesser forms for the next year or 2 and gradually inserting them into the team.

instead of alienating Sars and gayle in particular he shud have been ensuring that they were fit and ready to go at all times. the brainy thing was to develop the means to use these guys in the interest of the westindies and keeping his job...not to lose his cool and start attacking them.

instaed of being in the top team players lilke Powell and Braithwiate shud be percolating properly in the A team, ready in another 2 years to be unleashed on the world. Edwards and Bravo wud be in the team the 2 young batsmen westindies could rightly afford to insert at this time.

Bishsoo would be in here too, Benn woudl not have been discarded but prolly keeping warm in the A team .

the key was to get the best out of the better senior players, develop the young properly so that in 5 years we will really have soemthing to show by way of development.

oc more careful assessment so far, I see little is going to come from what Gibbo has done/is doing. I dont see from what exists/is going on a world beating future in the making. Gibbo better be careful he does not leave behind a wreckage we must someone else to try fix
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Well, as things stand, if the future opening partnership is Barath and Brathwaite, then the future doesn't look too bright without Gayle around....
8-)
A dead batting track at Kolkata, and both batsmen are already back in the pavilion.

But of course, while India were batting on a road, these guys were batting on a minefield....
:D
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mikesiva wrote:Well, as things stand, if the future opening partnership is Barath and Brathwaite, then the future doesn't look too bright without Gayle around....
8-)
A dead batting track at Kolkata, and both batsmen are already back in the pavilion.

But of course, while India were batting on a road, these guys were batting on a minefield....
:D
I know you're discouraged like the rest of us mike, but there's more going on than the simple equations that you've made.

Firstly!...Barath and Braithwaite will be the future opening partnership in test matches for the Windies. Once Barath can sort his fitness out and play a consistant run of matches, instead of stuttering in and out the team through injury, i'm confident that his consistancy will back the ability that he has. And Braithwaite is only 18, so he's still very much learning at this stage of his career. In regards to Chris Gayle, well as long as the personnel of the Board, Management and Coach is still there, then he's burnt his bridges.

India batting on a road and the Windies on a minefield is all psychological. You've watched test cricket long enough to know how this works and how many times have we seen this happen, where the homeside batting first makes a collosal and daunting total, then after the declaration the touring team goes in, tired, burnt-out and demoralised after chasing the ball around, folds through a lack of concentration and scoreboard-pressure. In this case Barath lacking any match-practice in the middle and a young 18 year old, having to deal with the realities of test match cricket.
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mikesiva wrote:Well, as things stand, if the future opening partnership is Barath and Brathwaite, then the future doesn't look too bright without Gayle around....
8-)
A dead batting track at Kolkata, and both batsmen are already back in the pavilion.

But of course, while India were batting on a road, these guys were batting on a minefield....
:D
And what was Gayle doing aged 18 and 21 grandpa Mike? PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME!! :roll: , i guess Kraiggs 64 in the first test was a crap knock right? ok!!.
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AFRO wrote:Can't wait to see them bat, we've seen Powell and Kraigg together and Powell and Barath, but we've never seen the best young opening pair we have today and that's Brathwaite and Barath, hopefully they will play together in the next test because Powell is a walking disaster right now, i had hopes that he could possibly be another Alistiar Cook but that's never gonna happen,

I think Kraigg and Adrian will compliment eachother well, one takes his time and the other likes to hit his shots, and at least with Barath we know he can get a ton when he's in the mood.
Yuh were saying? When is he going to get in de mood? I hope nat when Ganga becomes President of the WICB.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Westdem wrote:
Yuh were saying? When is he going to get in de mood? I hope nat when Ganga becomes President of the WICB.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hey duncy do you know what "when he's in the mood" means? :roll: HE'S GOT TWO INTERNATIONAL TONS TO HIS NAME ALREADY, so he has proven he can do it, h's probably a little rusty right now after being injured and missing the Bang series so lets see how he bats in the next innings before running him down.
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AFRO wrote:
Westdem wrote:
Yuh were saying? When is he going to get in de mood? I hope nat when Ganga becomes President of the WICB.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Hey duncy do you know what "when he's in the mood" means? :roll: HE'S GOT TWO INTERNATIONAL TONS TO HIS NAME ALREADY, so he has proven he can do it, h's probably a little rusty right now after being injured and missing the Bang series so lets see how he bats in the next innings before running him down.
I guess that yuh are not looking at this game? SARWAN came back from injuries and yuh CUSS him non stop... yuh fcuking hypocrite ;) :lol: :lol:

Lemme try to be CLEAR here...Barath have technical FLAWS in his batting and if this is not corrected, he is doom to fail!!! Yuh like his footworks as an opener? Are you happy with him playing the balls outside the off stump? :lol:
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Westdem wrote:
I guess that yuh are not looking at this game? SARWAN came back from injuries and yuh CUSS him non stop... yuh fcuking hypocrite ;) :lol: :lol:

Lemme try to be CLEAR here...Barath have technical FLAWS in his batting and if this is not corrected, he is doom to fail!!! Yuh like his footworks as an opener? Are you happy with him playing the balls outside the off stump? :lol:
Still bawing over your husband? :lol: FATWAN PLAYED AN ODI SERIES IN SL, THEN PLAYED THE WHOLE WORLD CUP BEFORE HE FAILED IN THE PAK AND INDIA SERIES!!.. so please shut your dutty mouth you deluded TRAMP!!, Barath scored tons again the Aussie pacers and the SL spinners!!, SO HE'S PROVEN HE CAN GET THE JOB DONE DUNCY!!!.
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