Brathwaite and Barath are the way forward!!
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Now, I can understand tired legs in the first innings, but what's Brathwaite's excuse in the second innings? Youth and inexperience? If that's the case, he should go back to playing for Barbados and the A team, before getting back into the Test side. Barath played several series for Trinidad before getting into the Test team. If the selectors keep picking Brathwaite for the Test team, they will make him into the next Xavier Marshall....
Barath has had his share of luck in the second innings, but it's been good to see him making use of it to play himself back into form.
Barath has had his share of luck in the second innings, but it's been good to see him making use of it to play himself back into form.
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Chanderpaul's scores in the sri-lanka seriesmikesiva wrote:Now, I can understand tired legs in the first innings, but what's Brathwaite's excuse in the second innings? Youth and inexperience? If that's the case, he should go back to playing for Barbados and the A team, before getting back into the Test side. Barath played several series for Trinidad before getting into the Test team. If the selectors keep picking Brathwaite for the Test team, they will make him into the next Xavier Marshall....
Barath has had his share of luck in the second innings, but it's been good to see him making use of it to play himself back into form.
1st test
32
2nd test
8 and 0
3rd test
54
Should Chanders have gone back to domestic cricket Mike?


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Abit harsh on Braithwaite mike, he is only 18 and he's not the first opening batsmen to fail under the pressure of a big score or having the temperament to deal with it. This is all a valuble learning experience for him to take on board, so he's aware to work on what he needs to do, to succeed in the highest level of International Cricket. And that comparision with Xavier Marshall is slightly misleading, Marshall is a attacking stroke-maker, who seems incapable of judging his shot-selection and got exposed of his defensive abilities, but in the case of Braithwaite, he showed that he has the discipline and patience with his half-century in the first test, but was just overwhelmed by the task that was in front of him in this match.
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Don't get me wrong...it is very likely that Brathwaite and Powell are the future of the WI opening batting, but only if that talent is properly nurtured. Yes, Brathwaite hit a half-century at Mumbai yesterday, but it was a dead batting track, and he played a number of false shots and gave a chance before finally being given out. He didn't suggest permanence. In contrast, Powell was comfortable before losing concentration and giving away his wicket. Powell is just not used to batting for long periods - he only has one FC hundred.Silvamaine wrote:Abit harsh on Braithwaite mike, he is only 18 and he's not the first opening batsmen to fail under the pressure of a big score or having the temperament to deal with it. This is all a valuble learning experience for him to take on board, so he's aware to work on what he needs to do, to succeed in the highest level of International Cricket. And that comparision with Xavier Marshall is slightly misleading, Marshall is a attacking stroke-maker, who seems incapable of judging his shot-selection and got exposed of his defensive abilities, but in the case of Braithwaite, he showed that he has the discipline and patience with his half-century in the first test, but was just overwhelmed by the task that was in front of him in this match.
If I was a WI selector, I would send Powell and KB back to FC cricket to play for Leewards and Barbados respectively for a full season, and make them miss the home tour agianst Australia and the away tour against England. THose tours can do them more harm than good....
Then, I would bring them back into the WI side for the home series against NZ, and in 2013 there will be home series agianst SL and ZImbabwe, and an away series against Pakistan. THat would be better for Powell and KB to ease their way into the WI side.
Note to Afro - I don't hate Powell and KB. I just think they're being forced ripe too much, and need to be properly developed. KB still has technical weaknesses that need to be corrected, while Powell needs to build his concentration.
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You're an absolute JOKE Mike and your agenda against these yutes seems to have no bounds!!.. you say "they batted well but it was a dead pitch"..SO WASN'T THE LAST TRACK A "DEAD PITCH" ASWELL? AND WHAT DID SHIV DO?mikesiva wrote:
Don't get me wrong...it is very likely that Brathwaite and Powell are the future of the WI opening batting, but only if that talent is properly nurtured. Yes, Brathwaite hit a half-century at Mumbai yesterday, but it was a dead batting track, and he played a number of false shots and gave a chance before finally being given out. He didn't suggest permanence. In contrast, Powell was comfortable before losing concentration and giving away his wicket. Powell is just not used to batting for long periods - he only has one FC hundred.
If I was a WI selector, I would send Powell and KB back to FC cricket to play for Leewards and Barbados respectively for a full season, and make them miss the home tour agianst Australia and the away tour against England. THose tours can do them more harm than good....
Then, I would bring them back into the WI side for the home series against NZ, and in 2013 there will be home series agianst SL and ZImbabwe, and an away series against Pakistan. THat would be better for Powell and KB to ease their way into the WI side.
Note to Afro - I don't hate Powell and KB. I just think they're being forced ripe too much, and need to be properly developed. KB still has technical weaknesses that need to be corrected, while Powell needs to build his concentration.


Btw we drop Brathwaite and Powell and who replaces them? LEMME GUESS YOUR LATEST CRUSH SIMMONS RIGHT?

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For the record, Afro, on the basis of what we've seen so far, Powell and KB have potential, but I wouldn't like to see their confidence destroyed by the Aussie and the English pacers and seamers. I think both of them MUST be in the WI side for the NZ series, assuming, of course, that they make runs domestically, which, considering what we've seen of them, should be fairly easy for them. I'd like to see them making big tons against Windwards, Trinidad, Guyana, CCC, etc, and then comes back into the WI side, regardless of who opens the batting with Barath. Happy now?
As for who opens with Barath, take your pick from the top of the last four-day domestic stats....
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but I'm wasting my time typing this...there's no way the WI selectors will plan for the long-term future. Everything is in the short term for them.


As for who opens with Barath, take your pick from the top of the last four-day domestic stats....
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but I'm wasting my time typing this...there's no way the WI selectors will plan for the long-term future. Everything is in the short term for them.

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You're just spouting pure guesswork Mike, no-one knows how Kraigg would do against Aus and England UNTIL HE PLAYS AGAINST THEM, trying to wrap these yutes up in cotton whool will not benefit them whatsoever, they have established themselves in the test team and this is where they will develop their games, JUST LIKE DARREN HAS, according to your logic Cummins should be dropped when India play Australia next month because he might get wacked by this great Indian batting line-up!!..IT'S ALL SPECULATION, not fact!!mikesiva wrote:For the record, Afro, on the basis of what we've seen so far, Powell and KB have potential, but I wouldn't like to see their confidence destroyed by the Aussie and the English pacers and seamers. I think both of them MUST be in the WI side for the NZ series, assuming, of course, that they make runs domestically, which, considering what we've seen of them, should be fairly easy for them. I'd like to see them making big tons against Windwards, Trinidad, Guyana, CCC, etc, and then comes back into the WI side, regardless of who opens the batting with Barath. Happy now?
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As for who opens with Barath, take your pick from the top of the last four-day domestic stats....
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but I'm wasting my time typing this...there's no way the WI selectors will plan for the long-term future. Everything is in the short term for them.

As for your last point!!..LOL you're out of your fecking mind if you think any of those are getting into the test team!!.. just piss off Mike you're making me laugh too much now!!

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Typical of this skunt...when confronted with logic, he resorts to insults.
How did our openers of the "future" fare in the Subcontinent Tests? Let's see....
Kraigg Brathwaite - 277 runs (ave 28 ) = FAIL. Quite simply, Brathwaite is not ready to play Test cricket yet. He's totally at sea against the spinners, much like Devon Smith used to be, which is why Dhoni opens the bowling with spin. KB is the future, but only if that future is nurtured. He needs to skip the series against Australia and England, and play a full season with Barbados, and some more cricket in the A team, before coming back into the WI side for the home series against NZ.
Adrian Barath - 128 runs (ave 32) = FAIL. After his century in his debut Test, he just can't seem to reach triple figures again, wrestling with one injury after another, which seems to prevent him from completing an entire season for the Windies. In the absence of Gayle, Barath needs to step up and provide leadership at the top of the order.
Kieron Powell - 190 runs (ave 32) = FAIL. Performed reasonably well, but not good enough on pitches that favoured batting. Powell is the future, but only if that future is nurtured. He needs to skip the series against Australia and England, and play a full season with Leewards, and some more cricket in the A team, before coming back into the WI side for the home series against NZ.

How did our openers of the "future" fare in the Subcontinent Tests? Let's see....
Kraigg Brathwaite - 277 runs (ave 28 ) = FAIL. Quite simply, Brathwaite is not ready to play Test cricket yet. He's totally at sea against the spinners, much like Devon Smith used to be, which is why Dhoni opens the bowling with spin. KB is the future, but only if that future is nurtured. He needs to skip the series against Australia and England, and play a full season with Barbados, and some more cricket in the A team, before coming back into the WI side for the home series against NZ.
Adrian Barath - 128 runs (ave 32) = FAIL. After his century in his debut Test, he just can't seem to reach triple figures again, wrestling with one injury after another, which seems to prevent him from completing an entire season for the Windies. In the absence of Gayle, Barath needs to step up and provide leadership at the top of the order.
Kieron Powell - 190 runs (ave 32) = FAIL. Performed reasonably well, but not good enough on pitches that favoured batting. Powell is the future, but only if that future is nurtured. He needs to skip the series against Australia and England, and play a full season with Leewards, and some more cricket in the A team, before coming back into the WI side for the home series against NZ.
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Seeing as you love to recycle posts YOU FECKING DUMB TWAT i figured i'd do the same Mike!!..
Here's my responses
first Brathwaite
Isn't Brathwaite in the top eight batters of this whole series? he's also just ONE RUN short of Gambir!!..and you're saying he "failed" when he's just starting his career?
imo THREE 50s IN HIS LAST FOUR TESTS and holding on for dear life several times when we've been under pressure has been a damn good effort from the kid, ALSO your claim that "he's like Devon Smith against spin" is COMPLETE AND UTTER GARBAGE!!, he was robbed twice in a few innings and some of the others he got out to pace, so don't LIE about the yute Mike..it's pathetic and only exposes your agenda against the youngsters even more..
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As for Barath..HE'S ONLY PLAYED TWO FECKING TESTS SINCE COMING BACK FROM INJURY YOU FECKING D/CKHEAD!!.. how the hell is that enough to judge him?
furthermore didn't he score a 50 in EACH OF THE TWO TESTS?
you're so deluded mike that you don't even stop for a minuet and digest things, it's pathetic,
As for Powell, i've never said he was a genius, as a youngster he's having UPS AND DOWNS just like Darren was, he still scored 92 RUNS in this test though which is decent IMO.
You wasn't running your big mouth when the yutes put on 100 runs after opening the batting in the first innings!!.. but of course you've been praying for them to fail because it would suit your agenda to a tee!!..wouldn't it grandpa mike?
Doesn't matter how much you moan though BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE GETTING DROPPED, it's as simple as that old boy 8) .

Here's my responses
first Brathwaite
Isn't Brathwaite in the top eight batters of this whole series? he's also just ONE RUN short of Gambir!!..and you're saying he "failed" when he's just starting his career?


As for Barath..HE'S ONLY PLAYED TWO FECKING TESTS SINCE COMING BACK FROM INJURY YOU FECKING D/CKHEAD!!.. how the hell is that enough to judge him?


As for Powell, i've never said he was a genius, as a youngster he's having UPS AND DOWNS just like Darren was, he still scored 92 RUNS in this test though which is decent IMO.
You wasn't running your big mouth when the yutes put on 100 runs after opening the batting in the first innings!!.. but of course you've been praying for them to fail because it would suit your agenda to a tee!!..wouldn't it grandpa mike?
Doesn't matter how much you moan though BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE GETTING DROPPED, it's as simple as that old boy 8) .