Competitive value

[Gils]

"I am not sure as to what is the policy,"

Doesn't It depend on how they feel, or who in power and which Island you from.

Ramdin lost the captaincy because he averaged 22 over 13 match's. His career average was 26, which makes 4 run deficit.
Sammy, averaging 21 over 30 tests, had a 6 run deficit. so, were Ramdin's intangibles worth less :

Other news see's yet another blow delivered to BWI competitive value as coach Simmons blames " interference from outside " as the reason neither He, Lloyd or Holder can realise their wish for both Kieron Pollard and Dwayne Bravo to rejoin the ODI squad for the upcoming tour of Sri lanka. http://guyanachronicle.com/simmons-slam ... -omission/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

“I think it’s disappointing from the fact that I haven’t got the best 50-over ODI squad that we can select in the Caribbean,” an irate Simmons said

I don't think even the most fluent & creative of liar's could suggest BWI have given the new appointee their full support in this matter as the clearly unhappy coach says Holder also wanted the duo back in the squad.

" the captain also gave his views as why they need to be back. "

Outside influence eh So if the BWI director of cricket, who is unelected & voted against the pairs re-installment, is a foreigner .........

[Gils]

BWI coach Phil Simmons has beeb suspended just two weeks before the tour of Sri Lanka and only 6 months after accepting the job. Eldine Baptiste will now lead the team to the sub continent. http://trinidadexpress.com/20150928/spo ... -suspended" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

A statement from the BWICBC read

“The West Indies Cricket Board has learnt of the comments from head coach of the West Indies team Phil Simmons in the print and electronic media which appear to question the legitimacy of the selection process of the one-day international squad for the tour of Sri Lanka. As a result, the management of the WICB has taken action to suspend the head coach, pending an investigation into the issue.

The head coach will not now travel with the team on the tour of Sri Lanka.”

Which go's to show Michael Holding's observations in April in a much more of a prophetic light.

“What makes things worse is when the president and the chairman of selectors comes out and tries to tell the public they have selected a team purely on merit,”

My personal view is lol you can't fail repeatedly and still front up so lets give him a retirement package.@dave51

[mikesiva]

English posters saying Holder is another Sammy....

http://www.cricket-match-special.com/vi ... 0&start=15" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[AFRO]

LOL i see mike blending in well with him fellow country man dem!!..unnu watching your boys get licks by pakistan or wah?

[mikesiva]

So, how has Sammy Part II done in this match so far?

One wicket and out for 19...Holder is keeping Sammy company.

[Gils]

Ad Hominem : attack the messenger to avoid dealing with the message, typical BWICBC MO

1st test in Galle - Sri lanka 484, West Indies 251 & 227, Sri Lanka won by an innings and 6 runs

CV - 0.75

[mikesiva]

I borrowed this from an excellent post on cc.com....

Fact is that In last 20 odd years, only 4** out of 47 batsmen, could make the cut! (<10%)

Detailed List - In Bold, those who learnt and avg more than 40 in Test Cricket

1994: Shiv Chanderpaul, Stuart Williams,
1995: Sherwin Campbell
1996: Robert Samuels
1997: Adrian Griffith, Roland Holder, Floyd Reifer, Philo Wallace
1998: Darren Ganga
1999: Dave Joseph, Suruj Raghoonath, Lincol Roberts, Ricardo Powell
2000: Chris Gayle, Wavvel Hinds, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Marlon Samuels
2001: Leon Garrick
2002: Ryan Hinds,
2003: Devon Smith
2004: Dwayne Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Sylvester Joseph
2005: Narsingh Deonarine, Donovan Pagon, Xavier Marshall, Runako Morton, Ryan Ramdass
2007: Darren Sammy
2008: Brenton Parchment, Sewanarine Chatergoon, Brendan Nash
2009: Lendl Simmons, Travis Dowlin, Omar Phillips, Dale Richards, Adrian Barath
2010: Darren Bravo
2011: Kraigg Braithwaite, Kirk Edwards, Keiran Powell
2012: Asad Fudadin
2014: Leon Johnson, Jermaine Blackwood**
2015: Shai Hope, Shane Dowrich, Rajinder Chandrika

**Jury still out on 5th - Jermaine Blackwood

Some pointers:

1. This "2015 Clive Lloyd's MAD PLAN OF YOUTH" is not a new one. Same was done earlier in:
1999 under Lara,
2000 under Jimmy,
2003 again under Lara,
2005 under Shiv,
2011 under Sammy

We have kept going to this FAILED YOUTH POLICY and have never honestly reviewed it!

2. As The above is only a batsmen list, but if the bowlers were added also, it will show a crystal clear "MAD SELECTION POLICY OF BLOODING IN YOUTH" who have hardly established themselves in Domestic Cricket and doing away with current experienced or semi-experienced lot.

I reiterate, there is a REPEATED OBSESSION of BLOODING YOUTH and DISCARDING either Experienced (30-35 yrs) or Promising Middle Aged (25-30 yrs) Batsmen, the above list bears TESTAMENT TO THAT FACT

[Gils]

So, you're not happy with Ramdin's batting, averaging 22, so you replace him with a man who averages a mammoth 34!

It's below 30 now while his bowling has produced 19 wickets in 17 Inns

Lloyd was full of optimism before the SL tour so it would be interesting to hear his views on Holders tour after this latest brown/whitewash.

He now described him as "a young man that all of the selectors, people in the Caribbean and worldwide believe has several of the qualities that can take our team forward"

[Gils]

Tour of Sri lanka - 2nd test in Colombo

SL win by 72 runs.

Top BWI batsman Darren Bravo scored a 50 and the part time spin of KB took 6/29. CV 3.00*

* Everything is relative : Bowling the opposition out for 200 twice is poor if you can only score less.

[Gils]

I borrowed this from an excellent post on cc.com....

Fact is that In last 20 odd years, only 4** out of 47 batsmen, could make the cut! (<10%)

Detailed List - In Bold, those who learnt and avg more than 40 in Test Cricket

1994: Shiv Chanderpaul, Stuart Williams,
1995: Sherwin Campbell
1996: Robert Samuels
1997: Adrian Griffith, Roland Holder, Floyd Reifer, Philo Wallace
1998: Darren Ganga
1999: Dave Joseph, Suruj Raghoonath, Lincol Roberts, Ricardo Powell
2000: Chris Gayle, Wavvel Hinds, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Marlon Samuels
2001: Leon Garrick
2002: Ryan Hinds,
2003: Devon Smith
2004: Dwayne Smith, Dwayne Bravo, Sylvester Joseph
2005: Narsingh Deonarine, Donovan Pagon, Xavier Marshall, Runako Morton, Ryan Ramdass
2007: Darren Sammy
2008: Brenton Parchment, Sewanarine Chatergoon, Brendan Nash
2009: Lendl Simmons, Travis Dowlin, Omar Phillips, Dale Richards, Adrian Barath
2010: Darren Bravo
2011: Kraigg Braithwaite, Kirk Edwards, Keiran Powell
2012: Asad Fudadin
2014: Leon Johnson, Jermaine Blackwood**
2015: Shai Hope, Shane Dowrich, Rajinder Chandrika

**Jury still out on 5th - Jermaine Blackwood

Some pointers:

1. This "2015 Clive Lloyd's MAD PLAN OF YOUTH" is not a new one. Same was done earlier in:
1999 under Lara,
2000 under Jimmy,
2003 again under Lara,
2005 under Shiv,
2011 under Sammy

We have kept going to this FAILED YOUTH POLICY and have never honestly reviewed it!

2. As The above is only a batsmen list, but if the bowlers were added also, it will show a crystal clear "MAD SELECTION POLICY OF BLOODING IN YOUTH" who have hardly established themselves in Domestic Cricket and doing away with current experienced or semi-experienced lot.

I reiterate, there is a REPEATED OBSESSION of BLOODING YOUTH and DISCARDING either Experienced (30-35 yrs) or Promising Middle Aged (25-30 yrs) Batsmen, the above list bears TESTAMENT TO THAT FACT

4/47 = 8.5% success rate, which goes some way to explaining the consistency in results over the same time period.

An 8.5% success rate for quality test cricketers while BWICBC sycophants continue to claim it's the players exploits in maroon that have earned almost 15 of them contracts to play in T20 leagues around the globe GTFOH

So, have the BWICBC stopped investing in Fuddadin, Kieran Powell, Adrian Barath, Leon Johnson & Kirk Edwards, can someone spell asset management

Well I guess If they can dump their passionate, hard working, Worrell like and committed to WI first Cappo Sammy then anything goes, so I wouldn't call these unscientific selections a youth policy as such, but more another guise under which scrutiny is diverted away from their bureaucratic self interest, by keeping the majority of cricket fans energy focused on side issues that do not alter the status quo.