Butts needs good licking...is this you Mapoui?

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Why did it take over one year for chairman of the West Indies cricket selection panel, Clyde Butts to meet with Lendl Simmons? Tours have come and tournaments have been played and the versatile T&T player and his supporters have been left wondering why, despite his performances, Simmons has not been considered for selection on the West Indies team, not even the second string ‘A’ team! He was never informed of any disciplinary charges against him, yet the treatment meted out to him by Butts and his co-panelists, Courtney Browne and Robert Haynes, attaches an authority to the trio’s role which, I am afraid, they simply do not possess.

Let me make it clear, I have no problem with players being disciplined. But in my humble view, the role of Butts and company is to select the best possible team to represent the region. There is a WICB committee, if my memory serves me right, to deal with discipline. Unless that body authorises or recommends that action be taken against a player, the selectors have NO right to reprimand anyone on the basis of discipline. Of course, if the selectors have knowledge of people’s attitude stifling their performance and growth, it is all well for them to intervene.
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Look like the Titties wanna kick Butts :?
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:D :D :D

no man! its valentino! he sounds like me. he must be reading these pages, one of the lurkers!

I like the comment below:
equality and bias
by Storeboy - 2011-01-28 15:19
For the many people who argued that Darren Ganga was not worthy of the WI captaincy because he could not hold his place on the team, how do they support the choice of Darren Sammy whose batting figures are worse and whose captaincy credentials are questionable? The West Indies Cricket Board and selectors are either drunk, staring mad, incompetent or just plainly vindictive. Well vindictiveness we know! Just look at how they treated Simmons and Sarwan!
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Why it took a year to meet with the man though?
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BallOil wrote:Why it took a year to meet with the man though?
you can place that within the boundaries of the relationship between authority and authority's minions.

by now power has so corrupted our betters that they have lost all sense of proportion and believe they can do as they please. dont you see the same aura and smell the decay of power the world over.

yu can see it especially in dat asshole Hunte. dat is one reason why I dislike that man so much. there is no more blatant and stupid elitist skunt, representative of the bullshit that is the blac westindian elite, in the whole westindies dan dat Hunte.

they are not working to produce winner but to express and exploit and display their power, even where that power harms westindies developmemnt and the interests of individual players. those things ultimately do not count..only their power and prestige does.

its all an elitist pappyshow
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and Butts chose to be one of them. dat skunt has been brown-nosing his way up the ladder from the start..years and years now.

and if they include Courtney Browne he is one of them too. he woud never be included if he wasnt an asshole just like the rest up there at the wicb

and dat Brown asshole from jamaica Haynes. they have a society in Jamaica in which brown men dominate, get all the breaks, have all the social perks going in dat society.

its Haynes responsible for Baughs selection over Ramdin. not that I mind for Ramdn could use the break..trust me in the end Ramdin will benefit enormously from being out of the limelight for a minit.

but they shud pick that Windy fella Fletcher before Baugh. look man Baugh is a laff, ah joke! yet he is there in the side

but Baugh is a skunt and a retard, a player with a level intelligence lower than his boot laces.

lok at what has started up in the Arab world. that is a response to the state of the world that is required internationally, in just about every country and in all international institutions...no less so in the westindies.

it is just that westindian people... blac westindians.. are so kiss-mih-ass stupid it is doubtful they can even conceive of, far less carry out a revolution in their own best interest
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if the wicb is going to select a CAPTAIN...on the basis that he is the best captain...then Ganga is the man..not Sammy.

wicb have made a real problem there for the westindies. not even Ken Gordon would have done such a destructive thing to westindies cricket..nor Hall, even Rosseau.

but skunt Hunte has..made a man captain, who not only cannot earn and keep his place on ability, but whose ability-set clashes with established and better players, who must be dropped for him to play, thereby weakening westindies side and chances.

is it possible that that is the reason a vice captain has not been named, the point Valentino Singh made... that the cappo may have to sit out so that westindies may play the best 11, of the 15 sent to the WC?

all of it is simple! power games, jackass power behaviour and corruption from those who hold themselves better than ordinary folk, more educated, qualified to run society, more virtuous and moralist than the hoi polloi...these pigs, who routinely do the most reprehensible things imaginable.

but because they are Dr. and of this or that family, middle class long time, they get away with it. no one questions them.

but if an ordinary person did any of what they do routinely he would have hell to pay for it.
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mapoui wrote:
BallOil wrote:Why it took a year to meet with the man though?
you can place that within the boundaries of the relationship between authority and authorities minions.

by now power has so corrupted our betters that they have lost all sense of proportion and believe they can do as they please. dont you see the same aura and smell the decay of power the world over.

yu can see it especially in dat asshole Hunte. dat is one reason why I dislike that man so much. there is no more blatant and stupid elitist skunt, representative of the bullshit that is the blac westindian elite, in the whole westindies dan dat Hunte.

they are not working to produce winner but to express and exploit and display their power, even where that power harms westindies developmemnt and the interests of individual players. those things ultimately do not count..only their power and prestige does.

its all an elitist pappyshow

spot on bro.. leading in yuh face and yuh can't shyte bout ite
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the westindian blac middle class and elites placed themselves in-between the westindian masses and the white forrin power and have led the people straight to hell.

the blac westindian elites were never interested in any issue other than their own survival as agents of forrin pwer, at a high rates of pay...salary not profit from ownership, interest and rents...but salaries. deh not interested in business and ownership.

issues of independence deh did not care about, never cared about. the welfare of the westindian oridnary masses deh have never cared about. they have done nothing but lie to the people since independence, refusing to take control of independence, of the region, to take ownership of it and begin to develop a national state in control of its own destiny

anything at all that threatened this betrayal of the people and nation, their traitorous relationship with the forrin power, they attacked mercilessly. they attacked any progressive local westindian development and the people involved, who sought to make of independence a value to the people, to the nation.

they discouraged any westindian of education, achievement and reputation from returning to the westindies to work for progressive causes. and those of this type who returned home anyway were discouraged from staying, encouraged to leave, their lives immiserated if they persisted.

the westindian elites did not want, and do not want anyone and anything to disturb the people in their ignorance. they do now want anyone to teach the westindian masses the truth of the world, their own reality and how to overcome their problems by their own hand...to clear up their ignorance.

the westindian blac elites have aquiesced with forrin power to introduce curricula into the schools calculated to dumb down westindian children. they have introduced chemical contamination of the water supplies that poison the westindian people slowly, make them dumb and docile, reluctant to fight for their freedom


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all of this means that the westindian ordinary masses cannot see their way clear to material security, remain prey to forin exploitation as well as local exploitation by segments of the westindian population that have not falled prey to the economic and mental machinations of the blac elites and their forrin backers.

these sections of the population are the minority whites and chinese populations as well as the large population of east indian ancestry that makes up at least one quarter of the orverall westindian population

at independence CLR James wrote extensively about thsi factor of westindian reality, the opportunism of the westindian blac elites, their lack of ideological substance and total unwillingness to set an indepenedent course for the region, while at the same time addresing the many pronged challenge to the progress of the region, the problem of nation building with a very diverse ethnic/cultural population, that had a long history of slavery, indenture, colonialism and society built on arbitrary and undemocratic force, classism, racism and ethnic antagonism.

in such a mess a nation had to be built and James suggested many approaches to that task. first and foremost was the intellectual content of the society that was an anti nation content. to change that to its opposite rquired that locally owned media emerge that would refelct the people of the nation and build a national identity. but locally owned doing a prper job of identifying the nation to itself required not just local ownership but ownership by the masses of the people. concentrated capitalist ownership made little difference whether it was forrin or local.

such massive ownership could have simply been achieved by share issues in very smallamounts, 5 dollars for eg to raise the capital to set up a newspaper, radio and television stations. so owned these would report and teach and condition the people in their own interests, image and likenesses. there would no longer be need to get our news from forriners who looked different from ourselves, and spoke in their own language, interests and likeness and not ours.
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dat is how you begin to take back the peoples minds from the propaganda they have eaten for centuries, and put into them a picture of the nation that is right and progressive, in which the people see themselves as actors in their own interests...become actors in their own interests.

next thing is to secure the ownership of the commanding heights of the economy, subordinate these heights to local ownership. all the big business and national resources must come under local ownership in as short a time period as possible.

and the more the people are aware of whats going on and support the government in these initiatives, the further the government can go in this direction. its all a question of knowledge and support. if the people do not know whats going on they can be easily manipulated in their foolish state. which is why you take the first opportunity to set up a local media, owned locally and so have no reason at all to report in any way opposed to the national interest, and in the national identity.

but an elite class do these things if they are interested in nationalist development. if you are not interested you do nothing of the kind..you do the opposite! you kill all all such nationalist initiatives and chase away or jail those who seek to to have them developed.

that is exactly what every westindian government has done over the last 50 years. they have stopped all westindian progress or anything nationalist, driven-off, jailed or killed all who advocated any such development, dumbed the people down, given them shit to eat and drink, no good schools and education, gave them on the other hand schools that teach propaganda.

and now they have deliberately reduced the only social instrument that knitted the westindian people together, around which they have traditionally unified...cricket.

this is why i have always stated as loudly as I could, that cricket has been deliberately reduced by the westindina blac elites and there will be no resurgence until their is social revolution in the westindies and a change of the power, from the hands of the elites into the hands of the massive
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