West Indies Cricket Fans

if yu, in your currentr incarnation had to chose 2 opener from 3..Haynes, greenidge and baichan whpo wud you chose?

dont you see how masterful haynes was man..from the start! shots all round, yet an ability to adapt.

and greenidge..... power, defence, ability against all save extrme pace at the start of his career, a problem he overcame after Lillee and the Oz. soon extreme pace was no problem and he cut everybody arse consistently.

Baichan was not up in dat league. he was good, his forte paitience, his stock in trade defence. but haynes and greenidge had plenty of that and cud score too...in big ways.

dats the way I looked at it. I saw baichans ton and was impressed. but before I claim anything at all I must allow for genuine diferences of opinion on which selections are based.

so much has been siad of these current selectors but Bishoo is in the side, Rampaul is now #1, deh persisted with Sars and Shive, Barath is first choice opener

and westindies selection due to the short cricketing seasons is based more on considered selectoral opinion than all other cricket nations. we have had no choice.

so mistakes have been made but a whole lot of success have been achieved. westindies have produced gems by the ton, as opposed to failures, based on selectoral opinion alone.

juss look at Kirk Edwards. deh persisted with him and most of us here wud not have. I wud not have picked him at all. but deh persited and deh were right.

yuh simply must take soemthings in sride man, see it for what it is on wat it has been. the judgement in those days were for haynes and greenidge. that worked out into the one of the greatest pairs of openers in the hisory of the game. case closed

case not closed.

Fact is Baichan was screwed after just 3 games. Plus, they still brought in new players in the very next series...they brought in Gomes. Why was Baichan not kept and given a fair chance?

yu cyan keep the case open and batel it..by and with yuself.

gomes is not blac! and gomes had a regional record dat baichan never compiled.

everybody knew gomes wud be included. it was a matter of wen not if!

with baichan it was as far as I know a matter of selection preference. gomes was preferred..whoever were preferred. dats it. the rest is histree.

there are any number of westindians who were not preferred like baichan. some have the luck, some appear at the right time...some at the wrong time. ask malcolm Otto! or keith atherton, richardsons unworthy pet!

the former appeared at the wrong time and a potentially great batsman was not selected. atherton appeared at the right time for him....was s shittong but played becuase the captain wanted him in the side

with baichan it was as far as I know a matter of selection preference. gomes was preferred..whoever were preferred. dats it. the rest is histree.

sooooo, thats what it was called back then!!

I guess during the last few years, Nash was "preferred" too

looks like Maps is not ready to battle the Googley

BallOil wrote:looks like Maps is not ready to battle the Googley

maps trying to be politically correct by saying Baichan was not "preferred".

Fcuk that! Little did he know what/how things went on in the dressing room during that 75 tour!

are you saying Maps can't handle the spin?

maps trying to be politically correct by saying Baichan was not "preferred".

Fcuk that! Little did he know what/how things went on in the dressing room during that 75 tour!

and yu were a fly on the wall!

and I dont want to hear wat yu heard from baichan himself for that wud be as subjective as subjectivity cyan be.

and why wud you be shocked about wat goes on anywhere... even in crickeh dressing rooms?

wat...life is a dolly house and big men are pets?

and dont go sarwan in mih here..Gibbo ruining his career..as if he is some kid now, jess weaned from his mothers milk!

and look here nuh! even if an Indo guyanese get shafted is dat some earth-shattering event, dats warrnants dire warnings of retribution as you imply?

man wat the rase is dis?

black men and women get shafted all the time...killed, murdered, exploited, left out, not selected, all manner of social depradations imaginable. deh say blac people always complaing but wat is the truth eh?

after all dat we still go back to the drawing boards and produce...sobers, lara, viv, holding, garner, roberts..

for every walcott imagine how many we lost! imagine how many the white wicb left our from up the dots for eg., dat left such an awful legacy we are suffering from today, as the dottys in power seek to get their own back at the expense of the rest and of westindies cricket period.

when dat understanding is applied to the world imagine the holocaustsfor blac people generally including sprts that has taken place!

we have to take dat in stride and continue or we will make decisons that will be even more atrocious than the ones we suffer from in the prejudice.

when I look back and I see the players involved I see a justified case for leaving out baichan..regardless. we have had Gomes and Chanderpaul but both those players cud and cyan score when necessary or if deh are in the mood

we accept those 2 but westindian doh like batsmen like that. for westindian is dat yu cyan socre or dats it. we have changed a bit but back in the day....

and in fact is only yuh whining googs lee. I see rampaul, Bishoo, Bharat, a fighting chanderpaul..all on the side. as well as tons of Indo players battling, playing with intent and ambition to represent westindies.

is only yu stuck on past nonsense. if those young men focus on the past like yu with bitterness in their hearts deh will get nowhere.

the past is spur, motivation to pay back with success on the field of play. dat is wat we did. they stoped previous generations but deh cud not stop headly, the Ws. and the rest is histree.

dats wat I told yu before. now is Indo time in Afro decline. now is the time for yu to rise, bring on the Indo greats and stop the past-looking and whining. leave dat fuh sarwan. follow shive!