Seriously, which head coach is needed for WI?

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mapoui
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I do not consider forriners for westindian coach. I will not discard Williams on one failure. Logie is still viable in my book.

not 'anyone but Gibbo' ... a good quality coach... but absolutely no forriners
mapoui
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as a matter of fact i wud hire no head coach. I do not see dat they add anything to cricket save confusion, comes' and conflict with the captain.

deh add a layer of bureaucracy that diminshes the role of the cappo which shud be where the buck stops

that is how cricket evolved. it wasnt broke but they fixed it...which means they broke a perfectly good and natural system with the imposition of the head coach in cricket. just ask people like Warne and Pietersen

deh shud have left that ego driven position where it belongs...in soccer and in american major league sports.

no coach for me save at all the technical levels. you want a batting coach have one..bowling ditto, fielding... same. all to report to the cappo.

thats my way. eff head coaches
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mapoui wrote:I do not consider forriners for westindian coach. I will not discard Williams on one failure. Logie is still viable in my book.

not 'anyone but Gibbo' ... a good quality coach... but absolutely no forriners
Gibbo ISN'T A FOREIGNER and yet you ready to discard him!!...seems like you have double standards!! :roll: ,

The fact is beggers can't be choosers, you can't moan about everything that's happening in WI cricket and then turn around and say "i wouldn't want a good manager because he's foreign", how does that make sense?

India's coach for the last three years was a South African, he lead them to a world cup win and the number one ranking in Test cricket, an Australian was incharge of Sri-lanka when they made it to 3rd in the rankings and were very tough to beat at home, and now a man from Zimbabwe has just lead England to the number one ranking and won them the T20 cup, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'D PREFER A POOR WEST INDIAN COACH AND WIN NOTHING RATHER THAN HAVING A FOREIGN COACH AND WIN SOMETHING? if so you're weird man!! :lol: .
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Gibbo ISN'T A FOREIGNER and yet you ready to discard him!!...seems like you have double standards!! ,

The fact is beggers can't be choosers, you can't moan about everything that's happening in WI cricket and then turn around and say "i wouldn't want a good manager because he's foreign", how does that make sense?
I dont understand the rest of what yu wrote.

i know gibbo is Bajan..i know the man from the start as a player to now. I dont see him as the man for the job as I have stated.

also yu appear to always want to be a begger. I do not! everybody have to start somewhere and build themselvs up on wat deh have. if deh do not deh will always be dependent..not independent.

wen westindians were thinking independent, and fighting the british for indpendence, we did not want any forrin coach, did not see anything foreign as essential, dependend on our own resources entirely.

what yu say above was unthinkable when I was growing up. we knew the enemy and knew he did not care and wud not do a damm thing for us.

on that basis we built 2 world championships and a traditon second to none in the game. and yu say we cant draw on that traditon now to build all dat we need.

really eh! no freakin forrin coach. stand on we onw legs or die. thats the way. any other way is dependence and subservience. we cant win the way we are going. yet in the past we won all the time.

westindians are not wat they used to. today westindians are UN-Worrell!
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Westdem
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I would prefer to see Phil Simmons coach the WI side....Look at what he is doing with that Ireland team....but the WICB would not give him a shot... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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what agenda you skunts talking about? Cause i named two guyanese?!!

whats wrong with that?? Those two are available.

There are many others who can do a better job that Opiss! The issue is that WICB got OPISS kissing their ass and carrying on their Dottie agenda!

Other WI, beside Hoops and Kalli who can do a better job include but not limited to Phil Simmons (as Westdem pointed out), Padams, Logie, Harper (oops, another guyanese!! haha), etc. oh, yes Andy Roberts too!

Most of these chaps will not put up with the WICB's shitty agenda !! I know Kalli will not!! :lol:
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Googley wrote:what agenda you skunts talking about? Cause i named two guyanese?!!

whats wrong with that?? Those two are available.

There are many others who can do a better job that Opiss! The issue is that WICB got OPISS kissing their ass and carrying on their Dottie agenda!

Other WI, beside Hoops and Kalli who can do a better job include but not limited to Phil Simmons (as Westdem pointed out), Padams, Logie, Harper (oops, another guyanese!! haha), etc. oh, yes Andy Roberts too!

Most of these chaps will not put up with the WICB's shitty agenda !! I know Kalli will not!! :lol:

Even Eldine Baptiste can be considered...he is coaching Kenya I think... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: All these players have the right credentials... :lol: :lol:
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Googley wrote:what agenda you skunts talking about? Cause i named two guyanese?!!

whats wrong with that?? Those two are available.

There are many others who can do a better job that Opiss! The issue is that WICB got OPISS kissing their ass and carrying on their Dottie agenda!

Other WI, beside Hoops and Kalli who can do a better job include but not limited to Phil Simmons (as Westdem pointed out), Padams, Logie, Harper (oops, another guyanese!! haha), etc. oh, yes Andy Roberts too!

Most of these chaps will not put up with the WICB's shitty agenda !! I know Kalli will not!! :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Maps disagree with you so he mentioned couple Trinis instead... :P He wants to keep the job local... :lol:
mapoui wrote:I do not consider forriners for westindian coach. I will not discard Williams on one failure. Logie is still viable in my book.

not 'anyone but Gibbo' ... a good quality coach... but absolutely no forriners
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Williams is a skunt juss like Opis! he got no balls! :lol: :lol:

Logie was alright but he got no backing from the board!
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mapoui wrote:
Gibbo ISN'T A FOREIGNER and yet you ready to discard him!!...seems like you have double standards!! ,

The fact is beggers can't be choosers, you can't moan about everything that's happening in WI cricket and then turn around and say "i wouldn't want a good manager because he's foreign", how does that make sense?
I dont understand the rest of what yu wrote.

i know gibbo is Bajan..i know the man from the start as a player to now. I dont see him as the man for the job as I have stated. I have said.

also yu appear to always want to be a begger. I do not! everybody have to start somewhere and build themselvs up on wat deh have. if deh do nto dhe will always be dependent..not indpendent.

wen westindians were thinking independent, and fighting the british for indpendence we did not want any forrin coach, did not see anything forfeign as essential, dependend on our own resources entirely. what yu say here was unthinkable when I was growing up. we knew the enemy and knew he did not care and wud not do a damm thing for us.

on that basis we built 2 world championships and a traditon second to none in the game. ands yu say we cant draw on that traditon now to build all dat we need.

really eh. no freakin forrin coah. stand on we onw legs or die. thats the way. any other way ios dependence and subservience. we cant win the way we are going. yet in the past we won all the time.

westindians ar no wat they used to. today westindians are UN-Worrell!
What don't you "understand"? :roll: FOREIGN COACHES HAVE GUIDED ENGLAND, INDIA AND SRI-LANKA TO THE TOP RECENTLY, that's the point, so why must we handicap ourselves and not consider one just because of some tedious "tradition"? WE HAD FOREIGN COACHES BEFORE, so it's nothing new, but clearly your prejudice mindset is more important than WI winning matches!! :| ,

And you say we should "stand pon we own legs"? really? WELL STOP CUSSING OFF THE WEST INDIAN COACH CURRENTLY INCHARGE!!.. you can't have it both ways, if you think West indian coaches should get a chance then GIVE GIBBO A CHANCE, instead of bigging up proven failures like David Williams.
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