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Extremely good points maps....

I should not lower myself to the gutter which is afros abode. He passes off falacies as fact such as points two and four which he is completely wrong about in his personal attacks.

Afro has never lived in the caribbean and is a wicb lackey. Like the wicb he clearly resents the fact that caribbean athletes have beaten the world unlike this pathetic Sammy-led team which can only beat new zealand and bangladesh.
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Afro is a hypocrite....he still hasnt congratulated our caribbean athletes for their success at the olympics. Instead he launches personal attacks on those who do.....

Thats why i believe Afro is a lackey of hunte and hilaire....the caribbean athletics associations are run better than the wicb. The fact is that West Indies cricket has a lot to learn from Jamaican, Trinidadian, Bahamian and Grenadian athletics. Athletes from all of the islands have beaten the entire world, not just New Zealand and Bangladesh.
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Oh look, the old skunt is playing captain "savo a foreigner" now i see!!.. what a JOKE!! :lol: :lol: ,
mapoui wrote:mikesiva: why must yu wallow in nonsense like this, having to defend yourself on chupid, empty charges that are erroneous from the start..that no one in their right mind would be interested in
"Empty charges"? you mean like the ones you've made against Radford saying that his intentions are to ruin WI cricket? :roll: FECK OFF you stupid hypocrite!!,

who cares where you were born as long as there is the westindian connection that is exprssed in your life in the way you express it..with postive love and concern for the westindies..not an extractive, selfish love but one of concern and give...unlike some who remember the westindies only when they want or need to exploit it for their own personal motives when they fail elsewhere
BWahahahah "who cares where he was born" you say? if thats the case WHY DID YOU POUR SCORN ON NASH THEN YOU DUNCE? :roll: oops i forgot that doesn't quite suit your argument does it? the fact is Nash is more west indian than mike BECAUSE HIS PARENTS ARE ACTUALLY WEST INDIAN, mike is nothing but an english man who's parents are indian and british, so wheel and come again,

dont you see you are being manipulated..that those charges are empty and the leveller knows they are empty butuse them to keep you off balance and the debate focused on nutten of value..wasting your time, dumbing down everybody who pays attention to this nutten debate
They are only "empty" to you because your a foolish SELLOUT who ran from the region many years ago, and just like that desperate idiot mike you wanna fool people into thinking you really care about the caribbean when the simple fact is YOU ARE NO LONGER PART OF IT,

your loyaltyand affiliation to the westindies is fine. beyond question, proven. you are westindian, solid and true. have confidence in that and ignore any nonsense to the contrary. you are wesindian..and english too.

you have chosen to pay a lot of atention to your home no matter wghere you are in the world. and thats fine. you are not ripping off the old home place, remembering it only when yu want soemthng from it like some I know.
BWahahahahahah..another load of retarded NONSENSE, what the hell is mike doing for the caribbean? :? i'll tell you what..NOTHING, just like YOU, you think going to a damn track and field event to watch jamaican athletes is "doing" something? :shock: if so then you're more deluded than i thought!!!,

get your head out of the garbage man, the saem old useless nonsens day after day and focuse on naturally evolving and developing issues that lead somewhere.

{ now just look at the flow of vitriol that will ensue from that comment..am endless flow of wukless, sknts of all kinds, assorted trannies and what nots. yu have time to exist on flat plains rther than traverse the uplands of good debate?

and the same charges levelled at me! }
And what the feck are you doing old boy? you spend 24 hours a day trying to be some fake "nationalist" and cussing wicb coaches and board members who are more clued up about the game than you are, and for some stupid reason you think talking on some fecking cricket forum that barely has any members can "bring change" to a region you ran away from many years ago!!!.. LOL man your vision in life is as DUMB as your spelling old boy!!! :lol: :lol: ,

In closing i think you need to keep your big nose out of my business, i stayed out of your dumb thread full of foolish fantasies in order to keep peace on the forum, but if you think you can come along and sling mud in MY debates with others then two can play that game.
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mikesiva wrote:Extremely good points maps....

I should not lower myself to the gutter which is afros abode. He passes off falacies as fact such as points two and four which he is completely wrong about in his personal attacks.
Oh gosh mike is in DENIAL again i see!! :lol: :lol: , the fact is YOU said your dad is INDIAN and your mom is A WHITE ENGLISH WOMAN, you don't have any caribbean blood AND YOU KNOW IT, furthermore point four is correct according to my calculations, you said you went to jamaica aged 6, but also admitted that you were teaching kids at a north london school IN THE 80s, meanwhile you're just about in your 50s so if you've been living in england since the 80s that means you would have spent close to 30 years there old boy!!!..so if i'm not dead on i must be pretty close!! :mrgreen: ,

Afro has never lived in the caribbean and is a wicb lackey. Like the wicb he clearly resents the fact that caribbean athletes have beaten the world unlike this pathetic Sammy-led team which can only beat new zealand and bangladesh.
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Yes Mike!!.. of course a person with WICB connections and access to videos of the regional games "doesn't live in the caribbean".. YEAH OK!!! :lol: :lol: , I've proven myself already, you're just mad that i don't tell you which part of the caribbean i'm from!!..and guess what? I NEVER WILL!! :P ,

Afro is a hypocrite....he still hasnt congratulated our caribbean athletes for their success at the olympics. Instead he launches personal attacks on those who do.....
Says the skunt who laughs when the west indies lose and never even went to a test match WHEN WI WAS IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD!!!...and you wanna judge me? :roll: pardon me for not being an athletics groupie like you old boy!!,

Thats why i believe Afro is a lackey of hunte and hilaire....the caribbean athletics associations are run better than the wicb. The fact is that West Indies cricket has a lot to learn from Jamaican, Trinidadian, Bahamian and Grenadian athletics. Athletes from all of the islands have beaten the entire world, not just New Zealand and Bangladesh.
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LOL at this idiot comparing a TEAM SPORT that lasts 5 days to a damn race ran by once in a generation individuals!! :lol: :lol: :lol: , where were the jamaicans in the boxing? where were they in the cycling? or the swimming and long distance running? :| certain nations have their strengths and weaknesses and this is jams time where sprinting concerned, trying to compare it to cricket is beyond retarded, in the 100m you only need one or two gifted men and women, in cricket YOU NEED ELEVEN, i would have thought Lara's era would have tought you that but it obviously didn't.
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Once again the gutter-rat resorts to personal attacks, Maps, but let's leave him to wallow in his own filth....Suffice it to say, nobody who went to school in the Caribbean - like you and I - would make the stupid mistake of thinking that Caribbean slaves grew cotton and not sugar!
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Only a wannabe West Indian who went to school in the US would think that....

Maps, which Test matches did you go to in Trinidad? Here's the list I went to at Sabina Park....

1983 - India (Roberts turning the course of the match with three wickets in one over.
1985 - New Zealand (Coney gets his arm horribly broken, Hadlee bowls bouncers at Garner)
1986 - England (After a good start by Gooch and Robinson, Patterson blasted the English batsmen out of the park)
1995 - Australia (who can forget that terrible moment in WI cricket)
1997 - India (Rose sends Sachin's stumps cartwheeling)
1998 - England (what a pitch that was!)
1999 - Australia (great batting by Lara and Adams)
2000 - Zimbabwe (Flower put us under pressure)

To say nothing of the one-day matches, the tour matches, and the regional matches I watched at Sabina, and the club matches I watched at Kensington and Lucas, as well as the regional under-19 matches. Of course, the gutter-rat would know nothing about this, talking the shite that he does on a regular basis. The gutter-rat would learn more if he asked questions, instead of spouting falsehoods as if he has any clue what the truth is....

Who cares about swimming, cycling and boxing? The Jamaican Olympic tradition is in athletics, and that is the blue ribbon sport in the Olympics, and within the Olympic, the blue ribbon event is the 100m. That tradition is now being embraced by the eastern Caribbean. Trinidad did not declare a national holiday when Narine spun webs around lowly NZ batsmen, but they did when Walcott beat the world in the men's javelin. Grenada did not declare a national half-day holiday when Windwards and WI skipper Darren Sammy led his side to victory over lowly NZ, but they did when Kirani James won the men's 400m. The fact of the matter is that Caribbean athletes are outperforming Caribbean cricketers on the world stage. I can pick eleven track athletes from Jamaica, Trinidad, Grenada and Bahamas who have done better on the world stage than the eleven cricketers who have played West Indies cricket in this current team.

I guess it's too much to expect a WICB lackey to overcome his inner resentment of Caribbean athletics success to congratulate them on doing well at the Olympics....
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The problem lies in when athletics administrators take a WICB approach to managing the sport, as they did in St Kitts....
Keith wrote:Kim has a Jamaican wife who is also his coach. In addition, she coaches some of the other athletes so it was devastating for Kim to not have her in the Olympic Village. If what he said was true then I am in agreement with him. Does he not have the right to have his coach with him?
Jamaica have been there, with the fiasco leading up to the Sydney Games in 2000, and how they handled Merlene Ottey vis-a-vis Peta-Gaye Dowdie, and Trinidad were like that in the days of Ato Bolden. But the athletics administrators are learning to take a back seat, and not to interfere as much as they used to.

The recent success of Jamaican sprinting and hurdling comes down to the private sector success of MVP and Track Racers, and nothing to do with the Jamaican govt and the JAAA. And this benefits the eastern Caribbean, because Kim Collins was coached by his Jamaican wife, and before that was trained by Glen Mills, who now coaches Bolt and Blake. Daniel Bailey of Antigua and Richard THompson of Trinidad both train with the Track Racers in Jamaica, and even Britain's Christine Ohuruogu gave up her British coaching structure to be coached by Glen Mills this year, and he did well to revive her horrible season, so that she could get a silver.

No, while Bolt may be once-in-a-generation, the success of Jamaican, Trinidadian, Bahamian and Grenadian athletes at this Olympics are not a once-in-a-generation success, much as WICB lackeys like the gutter-rat are probably desperately hoping it is, because it shows up the mediocrity of Caribbean cricket. Aside from Bolt, the other gold medallists this year for the Caribbean are Keshorn Walcott, Shelly-Ann Fraser, Kirani James, Yohan Blake, Michael Frater, Nesta Carter, Demetrius Pinder, Chris Brown, Michael Mathieu, and Ramon Miller - there you have eleven Caribbean athletes who are the best in the world!

And over the past four years, during which time there was two World Athletics Champs and one Olympics, other Jamaican gold medallists have included Veronica Campbell-Brown, Melaine Walker, and Brigitte Foster-Hylton, and Kim Collins won the gold in the men's 100m at a World Champs not so long ago. In addition, the Caribbean region has produced a large number of silver and bronze medallists in both the Olympics and World Champs, which far outshines the achievements of this particular West Indies team....
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Oh gosh i see the old ENGLISH SKUNT has morphed into "senile siva" again!!.. i knew it was only a matter of time before his retarded ways shows it's self in it's full glory!! :roll: . oh well let me pick apart his foolish claims AGAIN!!..
mikesiva wrote:Once again the gutter-rat resorts to personal attacks, Maps, but let's leave him to wallow in his own filth....Suffice it to say, nobody who went to school in the Caribbean - like you and I - would make the stupid mistake of thinking that Caribbean slaves grew cotton and not sugar!
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Only a wannabe West Indian who went to school in the US would think that....
Erm i merely pointed out that THERE IS A COTTON FIELD IN TRINIDAD!!.. that is a FACT, but of course you would try and use such a petty argument in an effort to try and DISGUISE the fact that YOU'RE NOT CARIBBEAN and neither are your parents!!..how pathetic!! :lol: :lol:

Maps, which Test matches did you go to in Trinidad? Here's the list I went to at Sabina Park....

1983 - India (Roberts turning the course of the match with three wickets in one over.
1985 - New Zealand (Coney gets his arm horribly broken, Hadlee bowls bouncers at Garner)
1986 - England (After a good start by Gooch and Robinson, Patterson blasted the English batsmen out of the park)
1995 - Australia (who can forget that terrible moment in WI cricket)
1997 - India (Rose sends Sachin's stumps cartwheeling)
1998 - England (what a pitch that was!)
1999 - Australia (great batting by Lara and Adams)
2000 - Zimbabwe (Flower put us under pressure)

To say nothing of the one-day matches, the tour matches, and the regional matches I watched at Sabina, and the club matches I watched at Kensington and Lucas, as well as the regional under-19 matches. Of course, the gutter-rat would know nothing about this, talking the shite that he does on a regular basis. The gutter-rat would learn more if he asked questions, instead of spouting falsehoods as if he has any clue what the truth is....
And STILL the senile one is failing to answer the charges i've levelled against him!!!... and why? BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE!!! :D , yes mike, name the test matches you went to while you were on holiday and rolling in the grass with Jimmy Adams!!.. obviously going to cricket games MAKES YOU "WEST INDIAN" doesn't it duncy? ok then!! :mrgreen:

Who cares about swimming, cycling and boxing? The Jamaican Olympic tradition is in athletics, and that is the blue ribbon sport in the Olympics, and within the Olympic, the blue ribbon event is the 100m. That tradition is now being embraced by the eastern Caribbean. Trinidad did not declare a national holiday when Narine spun webs around lowly NZ batsmen, but they did when Walcott beat the world in the men's javelin. Grenada did not declare a national half-day holiday when Windwards and WI skipper Darren Sammy led his side to victory over lowly NZ, but they did when Kirani James won the men's 400m. The fact of the matter is that Caribbean athletes are outperforming Caribbean cricketers on the world stage. I can pick eleven track athletes from Jamaica, Trinidad, Grenada and Bahamas who have done better on the world stage than the eleven cricketers who have played West Indies cricket in this current team.
God almighty is this guy really THIS DUMB? :shock: didn't you read what i fecking said you retarded prick? i said MANY NATIONS HAVE THEIR OWN TALENTS!!!.. jamaica's just happens to be sprinting, just like England right now are dominating cycling, if Jamaica was so "brilliant" at sports why are they only dominating in ONE field? surely their athletics set up is so "brilliant" that they could produce a long distance runner? BUT NO, it doesn't happen because they just ain't schooled like that, which is why you having an orgasm over what they've done is rather SILLY, it's not rocket science dummy!!, it's merely tradition and the fact that Bolt has come along at just the right time,

furthermore the reason countries don't celebrate certain cricketers IS BECAUSE IT'S A TEAM SPORT YOU FECKING DICKHEAD!!, why the feck would a country celebrate a man taking a 5fer? are you mad?!! :?

I guess it's too much to expect a WICB lackey to overcome his inner resentment of Caribbean athletics success to congratulate them on doing well at the Olympics....
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The problem lies in when athletics administrators take a WICB approach to managing the sport, as they did in St Kitts....
So you're moaning at me for not kissing rass over some men running on a track but yet YOU COULDN'T EVEN PRAISE YOUR OWN FELLOW COUNTRY MEN/WOMEN for winning gold RIGHT ON YOUR DOOR STEP? feck off mike you're deluded prat!!! :| ,

No, while Bolt may be once-in-a-generation, the success of Jamaican, Trinidadian, Bahamian and Grenadian athletes at this Olympics are not a once-in-a-generation success, much as WICB lackeys like the gutter-rat are probably desperately hoping it is, because it shows up the mediocrity of Caribbean cricket. Aside from Bolt, the other gold medallists this year for the Caribbean are Keshorn Walcott, Shelly-Ann Fraser, Kirani James, Yohan Blake, Michael Frater, Nesta Carter, Demetrius Pinder, Chris Brown, Michael Mathieu, and Ramon Miller - there you have eleven Caribbean athletes who are the best in the world!
ZZZZZZZZZ go bore someone else with your athletics fetish you senile skunt!!!.. i'm not interested!!, but whats evident is instead of answering the claims i made about you YOU'VE DUCKED AND DIVED AS USUAL and tried to hide behind your tedious "athletics" speak..it's so pathetic :lol: , but thats mike all over, when challenged he'll run behind his dutty washer woman and refuse to agknowledge the truth,

And over the past four years, during which time there was two World Athletics Champs and one Olympics, other Jamaican gold medallists have included Veronica Campbell-Brown, Melaine Walker, and Brigitte Foster-Hylton, and Kim Collins won the gold in the men's 100m at a World Champs not so long ago. In addition, the Caribbean region has produced a large number of silver and bronze medallists in both the Olympics and World Champs, which far outshines the achievements of this particular West Indies team....
LOL at this clown acting like Jamaica is some "special" case when the facts are America are a fading force, England haven't produced anyone decent since Christie and a young Chambers and the European whites can't compete, SO OF COURSE JAMAICA'S TIME WAS ALWAYS GONNA COME, just like West indies time came in the 80s!!..i bet you wasn't comparing your "athletic chushes" to Lloyd and co back then you foreign prick!!..let Jamaica athletes dominate for 15 years then come back and talk!! 8-) .
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well we knew the vitriol wud flow..an endless lsited flow of nonsense patter that leads nowhere, discusses no substantive point(s) that sweetens the debate and leads somewhere.

I go back long before you mike..my first test was the bottle pelting in 1960 at the oval..a lil bwoy I watched kanhai make 110 blazing runs after the bottles.

OZ 1965, England 1968, India 1971...then I was gone. in 1984 I was back and saw India, then OZ next when westindies tormented them at the ARG

I saw Shell Shield in 1963, 64, 66, 69, 70, 71 when Trinidad led by our man Joey, finally beat Barbados to win the shield. "Cockraoch Ent Fraid Fowl Again' was the sign at the Oval as Durity and Gabriel knocked off the winning runs

thats the time man...not the garbage going orn currently when idiots, real stupids like the big mout' here can hang around and supposedly have a say...about jackasses and incompetents like Gibson and Sammy, Radford...a piece of disgusting neo-colonialist idiocy like skunt Hunte who is suited to 1950 not 2012..a man who believes that letters of congratulations are better than putting the right people in place to run westindies cricket.

people like them cud not kerry bats or water back in the day

just ignore the damm fool mike. I dont even read his shit anymore. when people stop paying attention to his total, obscene stupidity he will have to raise his level or stop posting
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I also saw shell shield and under19 from 1985 to....1989 when I left again.

I met people like Jimmy Adams. Athurton, Curtley, the Benjamins, Baptiste etc., came close to Lloyds side...

when they played in Antigua their hotel was like a house besieged, people all the time.

I guess they went to bed at some point but there were always lots of people there and the doors were always open
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LOL at the canadian skunt who doesn't even HAVE A CLUE about the current climate in WI cricket!!.. :lol: , all that foolish tramp is good for is being a nationalist WANNABE and spreading fake propaganda to help his wipa boyfriends!!.. IT'S SO BORING AND TRANSPARENT!! :roll: ,

But whats new? he can't stand the fact that i debunk his foolish agenda driven posts for fun and as a result he's admitted that he CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE, as for him "ignoring me", THANK GOD!!.. that prick brings nothing of any substance to this forum anyway, just prejudice bufoonery drenched in delusions and spelling mistakes,

In closing it's no surprise that he's decided to run for the hills though, it's hard when someone keeps beating you over the head with FACTS, i guess thats why he keeps begging bally to ban me!!.. but bally knows i'm a star player in this perticular circus!! 8-) .
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yess...bally is a fella like dat...prepared to tolerate crap.

but not me. I am not one for banning. I wud ban no one for for anything as long as logic prevails. I wud not ban a poster even for racism and racist outlook as long as he takes debate in his rass... comes back logically and flows with the debate as debates usually develops.

but how long can a man stay with the same point and not irriatet he rass out of people...the same level all the damm time!

Mikesiva is not a wannabe anything. he is english..he lives in enbgland...he flollows the westindies mightily. supports the westindies and westindies..if he is not a born westindian he is connected and lives at least partially the westindian experience. he lives in england. survivg there, making a lcing and suPPORTING A family requires some level of committment to the demands of english life.

that mikesiva can do that and still take part here as much as he does in excellent. he runs the fantasy which is a very enjoyable pastime for all who take part.

mikesiva does not ask here for anythng but he gives of his time to make the space a happier place. but instead of recognising a good citizen you pound away with the same shit all the time... wannabe, old man, yu doh live here, english man, traitor...wukless, trannie, skunt...

on and on and on! wat somebody send you here to dumb people down? how the arse can you go on so long at the same level with the same old shit. wat yu retarded or somethng?

and then when I write soemthing like my critique on coaching you retort with a simple jackass superficiality that demonstrates you dont have a clue as to whats going on in the world of sports when it comes to coaching..and you call it debunking my point of view!

man wat a dumm ass you are. I can flood this space with links to the mess in coaching the world over, demonstate that the problem is the power relatioin coching, and why there is urgent need for reform in the world of coaching...of which cricket coaching is a part.

that is what i wud ban yuh skunt for..your stupidty and relentless support of evil in the region and the refusal to temper you position in the face of the facts. yu low-level utter persistence with repretititve shit that clutters up the board and does no one any favorus.

Bally may tolerate you but it is no pleasure opening up these pages and running into and you wukless nonsense every-blasted-day for more than a year now. it is aint nice at all to start a day off with that crap
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mapoui wrote:yess...bally is a fella like dat...prepared to tolerate crap.

but not me. I am not one for banning. I wud ban no one for for anything as long as logic prevails. I wud not ban a poster even for racism and racist outlook as long as he takes debate in his rass... comes back logically and flows with the debate as debates usually develops.
It's only "crap" to you because YOU'RE on the end of the stick, do i argue with Arnik? no, Howzdat? no, bally? no, and it takes TWO to tango old boy!!.. if you didn't talk garbage on such a regular basis there wouldn't be any problems!!

but how long can a man stay with the same point and not irriatet he rass out of people...the same level all the damm time!
LOL is this clown for real? ALL YOU DO IS SPIN THE SAME RECORD EVERYDAY ABOUT THE WICB AND BECKLES, then you'll bore everyone with a "history lesson", so you're totally contradicting yourself old,

Mikesiva is not a wannabe anything. he is english..he lives in enbgland...he flollows the westindies mightily. supports the westindies and westindies..if he is not a born westindian he is connected and lives at least partially the westindian experience. he lives in england. survivg there, making a lcing and suPPORTING A family requires some level of committment to the demands of english life.

that mikesiva can do that and still take part here as much as he does in excellent. he runs the fantasy which is a very enjoyable pastime for all who take part.

mikesiva does not ask here for anythng but he gives of his time to make the space a happier place. but instead of recognising a good citizen you pound away with the same shit all the time... wannabe, old man, yu doh live here, english man, traitor...wukless, trannie, skunt...
Goodness me where do a start with this? :? firstly MIKE DOESN'T AGKNOWLDGE THAT HE IS ENGLISH, he believes he is 100 percent west indian even though the facts suggest otherwise, secondly why didn't you have this attitude towards Nash? :roll: at least his parents ARE CARIBBEAN (unlike mike) , they actually knew the great 1980s WI team personally and used to cook for them when they toured Australia, then Nash LEFT HIS HOME and decided to commit himself to WI cricket by playing for jamaica and then WI, BUT THAT WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, and you cussed the man on a daily basis, so you're not making sense maps!!,

on and on and on! wat somebody send you here to dumb people down? how the arse can you go on so long at the same level with the same old shit. wat yu retarded or somethng?
And has the wipa gang sent you here to spout your garbage too?

and then when I write soemthing like my critique on coaching you retort with a simple jackass superficiality that demonstrates you dont have a clue as to whats going on in the world of sports when it comes to coaching..and you call it debunking my point of view!

man wat a dumm ass you are. I can flood this space with links to the mess in coaching the world over, demonstate that the problem is the power relatioin coching, and why there is urgent need for reform in the world of coaching...of which cricket coaching is a part.
LOL AT THIS IDIOT STILL CRYING BECAUSE I DESTROYED HIS SILLY FALLACY ABOUT COACHES!! :lol: :lol: , the fact is YOU STAND ALONE where your foolish claims are concerned, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT DUNCY!!..it doesn't add up, thats why,

that is what i wud ban yuh skunt for..your stupidty and relentless support of evil in the region and the refusal to temper you position in the face of the facts. yu low-level utter persistence with repretititve shit that clutters up the board and does no one any favorus.
LOL says the skunt who has been openly RACIST on these boards and has spread vicious lies about Radford and co in order to promote your disgusting propaganda!!!.. :roll: ..go look in the fecking mirror and then come back and talk you skunt,

Bally may tolerate you but it is no pleasure opening up these pages and running into and you wukless nonsense every-blasted-day for more than a year now. it is aint nice at all to start a day off with that crap
Like i said IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE THEN GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN, i don't give a feck whether you like my posts or not, I'M NOT GONNA CHANGE FOR YOY SKUNTS, if you can't handle it then just ignore them, it's your choice, i'm not bothered.
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