WIndies A v Bangladesh A , 2nd Test

[mapoui]

Actually Corbin is Mapoui's bwoy

with the gloves on!

[mapoui]

wat I said is that narine does not appear to have any special ability as a spinner unless he is a late bloomer, who sudenly exposes talent he has not up to now.

I say this because he has been around and in the team and no one seems to have an opinon of Narine equal to his advocates here.

I mean if he is as effecitve as all dat he wud be the main spinner among the bunch he played with in dung heap for Titty. but he got the least exposure of all.

Ganga seems to have trusted him the least and he is picked as a bowler not a batsman.

all of that suggests to me that narine is not viewed as a certainty by anyone at at all, certainly not in his native Titty.

to achieve wat his advocates imply he will in these pages Narine will have to suddenly bloom into what he has not been

[AFRO]

wat I said is that narine does not appear to have any special ability as a spinner unless he is a late bloomer, who sudenly exposes talent he has not up to now.

I say this because he has been around and in the team and no one seems to have an opinon of Natine equal to his advocates here.

I mean if he is as effecitve as all dat he wud be the main spinner among the bunch he played with in dung heap for Titt., but he got the least exposure of all.

Ganga seems to have trusted him the least and he is picked as a bowler not a batsman.

all of that suggest to me that narine is not viewed as a certainty by anyone at at all certainly not in his native Titty.

to achive wat his advocates imply he will in these pages Narine will have to suddenly bloom into what he has not been

You haven't watched him bowl have you? "special ability" IS WHAT HE'S ALL ABOUT, he's got more tricks up his sleeve THAN ANY BOWLER IN THE CARIBBEAN, full stop, he broke into the Trinidad four day squad in 2009, after that he tore up the Caribbean t20s and was set to go on but was stopped in his tracks because they wanted to check his action and sent him to Australia, so he missed the last four day competitoon because of that,

When he got cleared he came straight back into the Trini team in time for the champions league AND HE WAS THE BEST BOWLER IN THE WHOLE COMPETITION, and he didn't just bowl to average batsmen, HE EMBARRASSED TOP INTERNATIONAL STARS LIKE DHONI, WATSON AND RAINA TO NAME A FEW,

Then he comes back and plays the one day competition AND TEARS IT UP AGAIN, he single handedly ran through the whole Jamaican batting line-up which included Chris Gayle, he took a wicket in every game and his performances took him to the top of the wickets taken tally,

This is his first four day game for over a year and he's only bowled around 15 overs in the whole match because i'm guessing it's not spin friendly, and still he picked up two wickets for around 55 runs in the two innings which is pretty good imo,

I imagine he might play against India in the ODI series and then we'll see what he's all about, after that he'll get more Four day games for Trinidad and hopefully he'll continue to improve, Bishoo aged 23 wasn't even playing for the A-team yet so give the yute a chance man.

[mapoui]

very well explained. I am impresed. yu have cleared up a lot..all you said is logically sequential, makes ' proper sense'

so I will use your base now to be watchful of Narine.

[BallOil]

Actually Corbin is Mapoui's bwoy

with the gloves on!

Corbin batting without gloves?

[mapoui]

Actually Corbin is Mapoui's bwoy

with the gloves on!

Corbin batting without gloves?

very funny. yu mus do a stand-up routine!

[mikesiva]

The Australians have always practised the policy of picking six good batsmen, and if a lot of them are middle-order batsmen, then one of them is converted into an opening batsman. They did that with Simon Katich, and they did that with Shane Watson.

Fletcher might not have opened the batting for the Windwards this season, but he has done it in the past, as WestDem has said. So, in light of Chandrika's failures, I think Fletcher should open the batting with Simmons in the next A team series. After all, Fletcher is only a year older than Chandrika....

It's not like the current opening bats are taking the shine off the ball. The middle order batsmen in this current A side are getting a lot of practice batting against the new ball....

Then again, it's possible that Simmons may replace Powell in the next WI Test team as the backup to Barath and Brathwaite, in which case I would say Powell should open the batting with Fletcher for the A team.

Yep just like i thought..GRANDPA MIKE IS IN RETARD MODE AGAIN!! ..let me get this straight, we should "convert" a batsman who's been scoring runs in the middle order just so we can drop Chandrika? THAT'S FECKING STUPID, first a foremost a player should bat WHERE HE'S COMFORTABLE, they tried to force Corbin into opening and it did nothing but dent his confidence,

Also as usual you've ducked the contradiction i pointed out concerning Simmons and even had the cheek to claim he should replace Powell? HOW SO WHEN HE HAD THE SAME SCORES AS CHANDRIKA IN HIS LAST GAME? you can't have it both ways Mike, Simmons overall test record is poor and if Chandrika should be dropped for his knocks in this test game then Simmons shouldn't be back in the Test squad for now if we go by your logic.

Actually, Simmons' record in Test is not much different from the records of Barath, Brathwaite and Powell, so he's still an option for the next Test series....

It was silly to force Corbin to open, because he's inexperienced. But Fletcher is a different matter - he has opened the batting in the past, and has done it for the WI in limited overs cricket, so it wouldn't be unusual for him to open the batting for the A team.

But it doesn't really matter, because Hyatt seems to be developing some consistency, and may just have done enough to keep his place in the A team. This would be my XI for the next 'Test' for the A team....

1) Simmons/Powell
2) Hyatt
3) Fletcher
4) one of Carter/Bernard/Lambert/Currency/Lesporis
5) Bonner
6) Russell
7) keeper - Corbin?
8) Carlos Brathwaite
9) spinner - Permaul/Narine/Kantasingh
10) Gabriel
11) Pascal

Drop Chandrika and Thomas....

WIAvBangA: After 1st over, WIA 143/3. Hyatt square drove Islam for 4 to move to 56.

[BallOil]

with the gloves on!

Corbin batting without gloves?

very funny. yu mus do a stand-up routine!

come on Maps...the chap still have to bat if he keeps

[mikesiva]

Yuh think dat Ganga was trying to Kill his career? Look as soon as he represent the WI A fuh de fuss time Ganga resigned as TnT Cappo....is this a coincidence?

I hope that he gets to play more regularly and maybe he will get his chance in 2012...

Narine had to perform wonders just to get into the senior team, he shot to fame after taking ALL TEN WICKETS in a trial match, but even when he got into the team Jaggs, Imran Khan and Sherwin Ganga were hogging the ball and bowling most of the overs, that's why he's barely bowled 24 overs in the two games he's played for them ,

The plan should be simple from here on, he's got another four day game under his belt and after this i'm hoping he gets picked for the ODI series against India instead of Martin, that experience should be a major bonus for him heading into the four day season, then i expect him to put up the numbers, if he does then the WI test team won't be far away, hopefully he'll replace Shilly in the squad for when we face the Aussies.

Darren Ganga has played a major role in selecting his brother, even though there are better spinners in Trinidad, so maybe his stepping down from the captaincy might be good for Trinidad....

First, the selectors have got to pick Narine for the Trinidad team, and then we can see how he compares to the other spinners in the side.

WIAvBangA: WIA 152/3. Hyatt 58*, Carter 51* - 44 overs bowled.

Carter gets his half-century too....

[mikesiva]

wat I said is that narine does not appear to have any special ability as a spinner unless he is a late bloomer, who sudenly exposes talent he has not up to now.

I say this because he has been around and in the team and no one seems to have an opinon of Natine equal to his advocates here.

I mean if he is as effecitve as all dat he wud be the main spinner among the bunch he played with in dung heap for Titt., but he got the least exposure of all.

Ganga seems to have trusted him the least and he is picked as a bowler not a batsman.

all of that suggest to me that narine is not viewed as a certainty by anyone at at all certainly not in his native Titty.

to achive wat his advocates imply he will in these pages Narine will have to suddenly bloom into what he has not been

You haven't watched him bowl have you? "special ability" IS WHAT HE'S ALL ABOUT, he's got more tricks up his sleeve THAN ANY BOWLER IN THE CARIBBEAN, full stop, he broke into the Trinidad four day squad in 2009, after that he tore up the Caribbean t20s and was set to go on but was stopped in his tracks because they wanted to check his action and sent him to Australia, so he missed the last four day competitoon because of that,

When he got cleared he came straight back into the Trini team in time for the champions league AND HE WAS THE BEST BOWLER IN THE WHOLE COMPETITION, and he didn't just bowl to average batsmen, HE EMBARRASSED TOP INTERNATIONAL STARS LIKE DHONI, WATSON AND RAINA TO NAME A FEW,

Then he comes back and plays the one day competition AND TEARS IT UP AGAIN, he single handedly ran through the whole Jamaican batting line-up which included Chris Gayle, he took a wicket in every game and his performances took him to the top of the wickets taken tally,

This is his first four day game for over a year and he's only bowled around 15 overs in the whole match because i'm guessing it's not spin friendly, and still he picked up two wickets for around 55 runs in the two innings which is pretty good imo,

I imagine he might play against India in the ODI series and then we'll see what he's all about, after that he'll get more Four day games for Trinidad and hopefully he'll continue to improve, Bishoo aged 23 wasn't even playing for the A-team yet so give the yute a chance man.

It is one thing to bowl well in a one-day tournament, and it's quite another to bowl well in a four-day competition....

In the former, you just need to be hard to get away, and a good defensive bowler who doesn't give runs away, to be outstanding in this form of the game. Badree and Santokie fall in this category. They are good bowlers in the limited format, but lack the weapons to take wickets in the longer form of the game.

Narine has shown he can restrict batsmen to such an extent in limited overs cricket, that they are force to take risks in an attempt to make runs. But in the longer form of the game, the batsman can play out the difficult balls, and wait on the bad balls to come along. This is where the spinner needs to find more attacking weapons to put numbers in the wickets column.

There is no doubt that Narine is a good limited overs bowler. It remains to be seen if he's good at four-day cricket, and we will only know that when he plays more regularly for Trinidad....

WIAvBangA: WICKET! WIA156/4. Hyatt ct wkpr off Shuvo for 62 (117 balls, 9 fours and one six). Carter 51*. Shuvo 3/55.

Whoops! It's not over yet....