India vs West Indies, 2nd Test, SHOWTIME

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mikesiva wrote:
With Shiv due to retire in a couple of years, the future looks very dark for this team.
Yeah because Shiv was the main man in this 400 score right? :roll: your lust for your fellow pensioner has not bounds to rhatid!! :lol: .
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Although we lost by a innings, i was pleased to see the batsmen show some fight and make a collective effort in the second innings follow-on.

With the exception of Braithwaite, all the other recognised batsmen contributed and applied themselves with a start. Excellent innings by Darren Bravo, looking so fluent and dominant, whilst facing the thought of total humiliation and not really making runs in this series until now, put a little pride back into the morale of the team.

Chanderpaul failed by his standards and what i mean by that is that it's not too often that he doesn't go on, once he gets a start. He either goes on to make a century or occupies the crease for a long period of time with his usual stubborn resistance. But in some ways it's good to see the others step-up and not always relying on him to carry the batting to some kind of respectability. It's just a shame that they couldn't produce this kind of batting performance in the 1st innings, as that might've given them a chance of saving this test.

Well all things considered the series has gone as predicted, with India proving that they're too strong for this inexperienced West Indies side. I just hope that the boyz can learn from this tough experience and try and take the initiative when the opportunity presents itself, because any basic errors like dropped catches or bowling no-balls when they've taken a wicket, will come back to haunt them. They can ill-afford to give this strong Indian batting line-up any chances, otherwise they'll be batted out of the match yet again.
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I am shocked that WI made this much runs. SHOCKED!!! :o :o :o India bowlers must have eased up on WI knowing that they are going to win. This is not your typical WI 2nd innings score.

Glad to see our batsmen doing well, but I doubt we'll see the same consistency the batsmen showed here to day for a long long time to come.
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DMan wrote:I am shocked that WI made this much runs. SHOCKED!!! :o :o :o India bowlers must have eased up on WI knowing that they are going to win. This is not your typical WI 2nd innings score.

Glad to see our batsmen doing well, but I doubt we'll see the same consistency the batsmen showed here to day for a long long time to come.



Well unfortunately that has always been the main problem with various West Indies sides over the years, we all know the ability is there, but the consistency hasn't existed since the glory days under the Lloyd/Richards era. I just hope that this Class of 2011 will show some signs that we're turning a corner. We've lost both test matches, but at least there were stages where they showed some fight during some sessions. A minor consulation, but one that i would take at this point. It weren't so long ago if we'd followed on like in this test match on day 3, we would've been all out by the end of that day. At least these guys are showing signs of fighting hard and putting up a resistance, despite the fact that they're being outplayed.

Time will tell i guess and facing strong opposition with the 3rd test next Tuesday, hosting the Aussies and touring England will give us a good idea of their fighting spirit because they're going to need it.
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Chanderpaul failed by his standards and what i mean by that is that it's not too often that he doesn't go on, once he gets a start
failed.......?

I dont see dat! Shive is human and the law of averages does apply to him too. he did well enuf in this game to have NOT failed. he scored wat 80-90 runs and was in 2 productive partnerships in both innings.

this was Bravos turn. I expected 150-200 from him once he set out to do wat was necessary to stay at the wcket forever

lil B and Edwards were the men this time but Edwards got a bad out.

the batting is missing an experienced opener at the top. and a keeper who can bat at #7

those are factors if found will most likely bring confidence and consistentcy to the batting
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Excellent heart shown in the second innings here but and 'yes' there is a 'but'...that miserable showing in the first innings was too deep of a hole to get out of!!! 8-)...Since the majority of our batsmen are so young, I hope they learn from their mistakes!!! 8-)

Our second innings batting should be taped and given to all the batsmen telling this is the application and determination needed to be very competitive at the test level. Eventhough we lost, I like how the top order built PARTNERSHIPS in this innings...Very well paced innings by Bravo, Barath played well but threw away a Ton so as Samuels...I am continued to be impressed with the way Kirk continues with his impressive performance...if he continues to punch above his weight, he will have a VERY GOOD TEST Career... 8-) Shiv still shows that even the BEST sometimes fail but he did well to support Bravo.... :lol: :lol:

Last but not least...I hope that the selectors don't panic and drop KB for the last test cause if they do that, it will hurt more than help him...give him a chance to finish the series as he is a BIG part of our future...if he plays and fail, then someone need to really sit down with him and help him out with with what need to get done to get him to maximixe his talent... :lol:
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Last but not least...I hope that the selectors don't panic and drop KB for the last test cause if they do that, it will hurt more than help him...
dat wont happen! Kb is the only openeing option deh have on spot. Powell is a non-starter!

but KB is not ready yet. I am warning allyuh that pesisting with him may damage him
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mapoui wrote:
Last but not least...I hope that the selectors don't panic and drop KB for the last test cause if they do that, it will hurt more than help him...
dat wont happen! Kb is the only openeing option deh have on spot. Powell is a non-starter!

but KB is not ready yet. I am warning allyuh that pesisting with him may damage him
I am juss talkingabout finishing off this seriers...give him the series experience...if he fails in the 3rd test...then put him in the FARM system with a list of corrective actions fuh de next two years...after dat he will still be young enough!! 8-)
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mapoui wrote:
Last but not least...I hope that the selectors don't panic and drop KB for the last test cause if they do that, it will hurt more than help him...
dat wont happen! Kb is the only openeing option deh have on spot. Powell is a non-starter!

but KB is not ready yet. I am warning allyuh that pesisting with him may damage him
Yeah, after this series, I really hope he's dropped down to the A team, along with Powell, to work on their game, before coming back up to Test cricket when they're ready....

Because if either of them face the Aussies in the spring, they will be eaten for breakfast!
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DMan wrote:I am shocked that WI made this much runs. SHOCKED!!! :o :o :o India bowlers must have eased up on WI knowing that they are going to win. This is not your typical WI 2nd innings score.

Glad to see our batsmen doing well, but I doubt we'll see the same consistency the batsmen showed here to day for a long long time to come.

is Dman a westindian...soused in our cricket tradition?

in cricket westdians are uselly capable of great performance if not hobbled by its own administration. sometimes..like this time... despite them.

poor administrsation that acted/acts contrary to westindian interest has been a constant feature of westindies cricket, broken by 2 periods of excellence when the players took over

first Worrell became dominant, his word the last in westindies cricket. then it was Lloyd/Richards.

as soon as the flow was broken by the appointment of Richardson we were back to the nasty old days of the ridiculous 'white' colonials and their blac and brown lackeys, beating the hell out of the national game.

I say 'white' because all the blac/brown leaders of wesindies cricket since we saw the last of Peter short in the 9-ties, have been blac/brown in skin only.

these 'black skin white masks' dropped greenidge too early while including young incompetents like Williams and Campbell. Dujon too..dropped way too early. then they appointed richardson and proceeded to select sides to fit him..not sides to win.

Richardson forced the too early retirements of Marshall and Logie and led the westindies side to chaos and failure. Richards who mentored Richardson to the captaincy, had to intervene ultimately to get him dropped so bad he had become.

but the wicb wanted/wants control and to get it back they had to get rid of the strong ordinary blac male type dominating westindies cricket.

deh are still at that nefarious job, conditioning a'good boy type at the HPC and including only those in the team, in order to have only obedient types they can count on, not to be revolutionary and disruptive in a westindin setting
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