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Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:44 pm
by mapoui
the wicb put an untenable selection smack in the middle of the mix and throw everything off, sending the teams chances to hell.
and here we end up fighting each other in effort to get around the wicb paradox, by hypothetically selecting this or that player over another to try to win despite the impossibility of doing so with the incredible wicb pik in the middle of things.
screw dat! I stop trying to pick any side. I have no side as long as sammy is captain, and the alternative is sknash.
I will not be the fool by accepting wicb bullshit and trying to deal with it....even hypothetically.
screw the wicb abnd this team. it will lose so be it. I will laf at it as i shud... and get serious only when the wicb itself gets serious again
Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 1:35 am
by mikesiva
AFRO wrote:BallOil wrote:imo Baugh is a damn good batter so he's more than capable of batting at number 6, plus like i said before we'd need Sammy to get himself a few 20s if he can

Tell we more bro...

So what are we meant to do? play seven batters and WEAKEN our bowling unit?

as everyone knows Sammy being involved makes things tough, but regardless of that Baugh's batting has been fairly decent for WI of late, he scored a nice 50 in the SL Tests didn't he? and he was impressive in the ODis against them aswell.
If we play a bottom six, starting with Baugh at six, followed by Sammy, and then four other bowlers, we've lost this Test match before the coin has been tossed. The batting would not be long enough. The strategy in Test cricket needs to work this way:
1) Try to win.
2) If you can't win, then draw the match.
Playing Baugh at six ensures that there's no chance of us drawing the match if Pakistan get a good start....
Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:59 am
by AFRO
mikesiva wrote:
If we play a bottom six, starting with Baugh at six, followed by Sammy, and then four other bowlers, we've lost this Test match before the coin has been tossed. The batting would not be long enough. The strategy in Test cricket needs to work this way:
1) Try to win.
2) If you can't win, then draw the match.
Playing Baugh at six ensures that there's no chance of us drawing the match if Pakistan get a good start....
So how the feck are we trying to win if we've got a weak bowling unit?

like i said Baugh has been in decent form for WI of late, he got a 50 in the SL Tests LIKE YOUR HERO SHIV!!, and in that series Dwayne didn't make much runs and it was often left to Baugh to come in and steady the ship which he did do on a few occasions, THERE MUST BE A BALANCE, we play six batters and we're pretty much playing for a draw!!.. if that's what we're aiming for AT HOME then it's shameful.
Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:24 am
by AFRO
cuffman wrote:
Well, if you insist...My thoughts are not much different to what I mentioned
here in response to your apparent surprise at my inclusion of Baugh at #6 for the 1st match tommorrow.
It really is very simple, the options are two with Sammy in the line-up:
1) Strenghten the bowling with 4 specialist bowlers and thereby forego an extra batsman (i.e. go for 20 wickets and try to win the match with the top 5 batsmen having the responsibility of doing the brunt of the scoring).
2) Bolster the batting and go into the match with a bowler short (the most probable result in such a case IMO is a draw).
It is my opinion (given that Sammy WILL play) that we should go for the 1st option and hence that means Baugh will have to bat at #6.
As I said previously, it is not ideal, but it is the better option IMO than going into a 5-day match short of bowling options.
You get it?
TELL DEM CUFFMAN!!!

, it's also funny how dem seh Shiv is "world class" and keep bringing up his average and yet dem nah trust him to get enough runs if Baugh bats at six!!..how ironic!!

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Imo we might aswell try to win this series!!.. we haven't won one since early 2009 to rhatid!!, i think Baugh is capable of getting himself a few 50's and Sammy will have to chip in with some 20s himself, if our batters click then we should be more than able to get above 300!!.. Paks attack isn't that great since the brilliant Ammer and Asif got banned.
Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:51 am
by Googley
Afro, wah happen, Shiv's inclusion give you the runnnings?
what about Devon Shyte? he out already!!

Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:07 am
by BallOil
AFRO wrote:cuffman wrote:
Well, if you insist...My thoughts are not much different to what I mentioned
here in response to your apparent surprise at my inclusion of Baugh at #6 for the 1st match tommorrow.
It really is very simple, the options are two with Sammy in the line-up:
1) Strenghten the bowling with 4 specialist bowlers and thereby forego an extra batsman (i.e. go for 20 wickets and try to win the match with the top 5 batsmen having the responsibility of doing the brunt of the scoring).
2) Bolster the batting and go into the match with a bowler short (the most probable result in such a case IMO is a draw).
It is my opinion (given that Sammy WILL play) that we should go for the 1st option and hence that means Baugh will have to bat at #6.
As I said previously, it is not ideal, but it is the better option IMO than going into a 5-day match short of bowling options.
You get it?
TELL DEM CUFFMAN!!!

, it's also funny how dem seh Shiv is "world class" and keep bringing up his average and yet dem nah trust him to get enough runs if Baugh bats at six!!..how ironic!!

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Imo we might aswell try to win this series!!.. we haven't won one since early 2009 to rhatid!!, i think Baugh is capable of getting himself a few 50's and Sammy will have to chip in with some 20s himself, if our batters click then we should be more than able to get above 300!!.. Paks attack isn't that great since the brilliant Ammer and Asif got banned.
HAHAHA...Baugh is NOT a #6...

Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 10:11 am
by mikesiva
AFRO wrote:mikesiva wrote:
If we play a bottom six, starting with Baugh at six, followed by Sammy, and then four other bowlers, we've lost this Test match before the coin has been tossed. The batting would not be long enough. The strategy in Test cricket needs to work this way:
1) Try to win.
2) If you can't win, then draw the match.
Playing Baugh at six ensures that there's no chance of us drawing the match if Pakistan get a good start....
So how the feck are we trying to win if we've got a weak bowling unit?

like i said Baugh has been in decent form for WI of late, he got a 50 in the SL Tests LIKE YOUR HERO SHIV!!, and in that series Dwayne didn't make much runs and it was often left to Baugh to come in and steady the ship which he did do on a few occasions, THERE MUST BE A BALANCE, we play six batters and we're pretty much playing for a draw!!.. if that's what we're aiming for AT HOME then it's shameful.
The only way we can bowl a side is out is if we drop Sammy, and play Fidel Edwards....
By selecting Sammy, the Windies have decided to play for the draw from the toss. The solution is not to shorten the batting, and play for the loss. Because with Smith opening the batting, we are playing another man short.
As you can see, Gibson has selected a team including six batsmen, Baugh, and four bowlers, including Sammy. And Baugh will bat at seven, as predicted....
Happy now?

Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 4:52 pm
by BallOil
Afro, how much the # 7 mek in the first test that you wanted to move up to #6?

Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:08 pm
by AFRO
BallOil wrote:Afro, how much the # 7 mek in the first test that you wanted to move up to #6?

He was poor yes!!..just like Shiv was poor in SL!!

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Re: Afro seh Baugh is a #6 Test batter...
Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:55 pm
by BallOil
AFRO wrote:BallOil wrote:Afro, how much the # 7 mek in the first test that you wanted to move up to #6?

He was poor yes!!..just like Shiv was poor in SL!!

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man, admit you were wrong and lets move on..

Don't try to divert on this topic by throwing in Shiv
