Gibson's coaching coming to fruition ...

[BallOil]

So Bangladesh won two and WI too. Which team is a higher ranked team?

I see we are competing well against lowly Bangla

[mapoui]

I doh care who gibson piks but his team shud not collapse like this one did.

I will not go to bat for Gayle, Sars, Sknash. deh get pik or deh doh get pik dats dat.

but the team must play better than that no matter who it is made up of...and dats the coachs responsibility

deh pay the skunt so dat players know wat to do in any game, how to approach it, wat the plans are, how they must go about the business of winning on the day of the game.

this westindies team did not have a clue wat to do in the conditions. all but Powell threw his wicket away.

I am getting pissd with lil Bravo. these are the condtions in which his skill and class shud come through. he must make some Bang hay this time around

[AFRO]

LOL you lot are a bunch of JOKERS!!, we were losing WAY BEFORE he arrived, but since he's come in he's installed a professional environment which encourages hard work and FITNESS, in his first test series he had to play South Africa with a depleted squad, no Barath, no Sarwan, no Roach (for one of the Tests), no Taylor and most of the youngsters like Bishoo, Darren Bravo, Kirk Edwards and Brathwaite wasn't even on the scene yet, we lost 2-0, the next series we went to Sri-lanka and MADE THEM FOLLOW ON, that's the first time we did that to a team FOR 15 YEARS, we managed to draw the series even though everyone expected us to lose it,

Then we played Pak at home who have never won a test series in the caribbean, everyone thought they'd come and roll us over but what happened? we won the first test and if we never let them off the hook in the first innings of the second test when they were 180/8 we would have most likely won that series, then we played THE NUMBER ONE RANKED TEAM and only lost 1-0, in both the Pak and India series "seniors" like Sarwan, Simmons and Nash FAILED US time and time again and still we only lost two out of five tests,

So effectively in the rebuilding stage Gibbo has only lost to the number one (at the time) and two ranked sides in a Test series, also recently we've started winning much more ODI's, summed up by our recently series win against Bangladesh, plus we just went to England with a weakened team AND drew a T20 series,

Blaming Gibbo for Pollard's bad bowling a bad spell IS PURE STUPIDNESS imo, it's the CAPTAIN who chooses what bowlers to rotate, NOT THE COACH,

The man has a vision for the future but some skunts can't handle the fact that some of their "favorites" like Sarwan and Gayle are FINISHED, they would prefer us to watch them proven failures continue to embarrass the great WI shirt just like they did at the world cup ,

So GWAN GIBBO..keep bunning the haters by picking up positive results!!.. when we win this Test series dem will crawl back under dem rocks and not say a word to rhatid!! .

[AFRO]

So Bangladesh won two and WI too. Which team is a higher ranked team?

I see we are competing well against lowly Bangla

So England won one and we won one so does that mean we "competed" with high flying England aswell?

Balloil your arguments are getting more and more PATHETIC by the day!! .

[mapoui]

Blaming Gibbo for Pollard's bad bowling a bad spell IS PURE STUPIDNESS imo, it's the CAPTAIN who chooses what bowlers to rotate, NOT THE COACH,

wat is the role of the head coach?


what plans are organised before the game for the game itself?

isnt it a function of the sophistication of the day that every facet of the opposition is studied out before a game and a plan prepared for the game?

isnt this why there video specialists who walk with teams...why there are reaseach facilities and assistants availabe to teams who want questions answered that teans need answered at any time.

is it not now a factor of preparation to know the national players inside out, their emotional make-up, how they think, their intellectual capabilities... so it is known what can be got out of them?

arent players now selected on this basis...their mental and emotional make-up as well as their ability at the game?

does not every team assess their opposition the same way in order to know how to get them out, how to play dem psychologically and defeat them?

how can it possibly be only the captains job to deal with bowlers on the field when all this is now involved, coalsced around the head coach, who has ultimate authority?

[mapoui]

I dont know but if gibbo just coaches the team..watever that means.. den turns it over to the captain and he is on his own in the field..seems to defeat the whole purpose of the presence of a head coach!

it seems to me that approach to cricket games involves a whole lot more than that today. and if that above is what westindies do the we are in at the bottom for the long haul. we will never rise.

wat is the role of the head coach? no wonder there is so much conflict between head coaches and captains!

dat is why for me the head coach is a waste of time, a hindcance and keep back. it is far worse when egomaniac assholes are selected for the head coach job.

the whole aparatus essential for success in c ricket in the modern world can be and must be developed under the captain. and rhe captain must always be a capable man, able to undertsnad and use all of it effectively enuff to bring home a championship

[mapoui]

if Gibbo is the head coach and he has ultimate power, he is responsible for everything, ultimately the success and or failure of the team.

thats it..no if, ands and buts!

and if anyone goes out there and plays like an idiot, contrary to any possible relevant approach to the conditions and state of any game, the coach is responsible. period!

the coach is repsobible for it all...for his team knowing the condtions and a plan that takes all the known factors into consdieration in appraoch to the game.

that to my mind is the essence of professionalism...preparation, adaptability, flexibility in appraoch, knowing the oppistion, conditions etec.

if it is missing in the westindian appraoch under gibbo he has been amiss, he has not prepared his side at ... or not prepared it properly...and as such as the man with authority, he is responsible, accountable.

[AFRO]

The bottom line is Pollard's bowling average in odi's is at 33, for an alrounder that's not bad at all, HE HAD A BAD SPELL, it happens to everyone, just an hour ago i was watching the best bowler in the world right now DALE STEYN get licks from Australia, should the South Africa coach be questioned because Steyn done poorly too?

GIBBO IS HERE TO GET RESULTS, not to please fans, not to be best friends with the players, HE'S HERE TO GET US WINNING AGAIN!!, i already outlined what he's achieved since he arrived, our draws against Sri-lanka and Pak were results against two teams ranked higher than us, but people don't wanna give him any credit despite the fact that he's working with a young team, and they were all in hiding when we beat England the other day aswell!!.

What happened in the last ODI was a combination of two things, ONE being that we played most of our reserves like Martin, Powell, Brathwaite etc, and TWO being IT WAS A DEAD RUBBER MATCH, regardless of the pitch if we'd have played the full strengh team we'd have won, FULL STOP, and even we beat India and Pakistan recently in dead rubber ODIs by eight wickets and such, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER!!,

Now lets talk about the WICB, i agree that they are killing themselves by keeping Sammy on, but no-one can deny that under this board West indies cricket HAS MOVED FORWARD, and here is a list of things they have done..

1. Opened the HPC which was ran by English coaches who developed the likes of Steven Finn and Oign Morgan,

2. Brought back the A-team and have sent them on tours,

3. Got the u19s playing international cricket again and have also sent them on tours,

4. signed a big contract with ESPN which is showing our T20 competition and parts of our one day competition around the world,

5. Finally got a shirt sponsor which is worth a few million,

6. Signed a radio deal with a dubai firm which broadcasts our International matches,

7. They've embraced the internet by using Twitter and facebook to interract with the fans,

8. Added an u17s regional competition to fixtures list,

9. Invited foreign teams like English lions to our regional competitions to make it stronger,

10. installed a batting coach to the coaching staff,

11. Invested money in club cricket all around the caribbean

12. Started work shops for the youngsters so they can harness their skills

And they are even talking about having a West indies b team in the four day competition so that more young talent can play first class cricket,

SO ANYONE WHO CANNOT SEE THE GOOD THEY HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS IS A DUMB, BITTER FOOL, end of discussion.

[Westdem]

Afro...even you should realize that the above list of WICB achievements were long over due....they are now catching up with the rest of the world suh nah mek dis anything abnormal by any cricket board...BTW ICC demand these from all cricket boards...If not fundings would be impacted...

[Googley]

i was watching the best bowler in the world right now DALE STEYN get licks from Australia, should the South Africa coach be questioned because Steyn done poorly too?

nooooooo, according to your logic, they should drop his skunt!!

ahem, that was the reason YOU gave to jusitfy opiss dropping Nash and Sars!