Nash: "At this stage I'm not coming back [to Jamaica] ..."
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 pm
BallOil wrote:Maps... whose fault it is if Jamaica or WI don't have those strict requirements? Are you also saying that Nash selection for the WI wasn't on Merit?
who says deh dont have those strict requirements?
yu ever tried to emigrate to Jamaica? yu ever went there and had to go through customs and immigration?
yu ever had to do that in westindian territory..including wen you go home to guyana for a visit..especially now if yu a citizen of another country?
yu ever try it in barbados?
there was a time when guyanese used to have the world of trouble around the wesrtindies.
as far as I know every country have a process of immigration and deh all similiar. its not rocket science..just immigration.
if skansh found it easy its because soembody made it easy for him. and dat could only be becuase he is white...or at least westindian white
- BallOil
- Posts: 19409
- Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:12 pm
Maan I've visited a number of Caribbean islands and had no problems as a American citizen. Some of the Caribbean islands I've visited ...Jamaica, Barbados, T&T, Aruba, Bahamas and Antigua.mapoui wrote:BallOil wrote:Maps... whose fault it is if Jamaica or WI don't have those strict requirements? Are you also saying that Nash selection for the WI wasn't on Merit?
who says deh dont have those strict requirements?
yu ever tried to emigrate to Jamaica? yu ever went there and had to go through customs and immigration?
yu ever had to do that in westindian territory..including wen you go home to guyana for a visit..especially now if yu a citizen of another country?
yu ever try it in barbados?
there was a time when guyanese used to have the world of trouble around the wesrtindies.
as far as I know every country have a process of immigration and deh all similiar. its not rocket science..just immigration.
if skansh found it easy its because soembody made it easy for him. and dat could only be becuase he is white...or at least westindian white
Do you think Nash selection to the WI was based on Merit or something else?
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 pm
well ask westindians wat their experiences have been travelling the region.
but stating that was just to highlight the fact that there is in place regular qualifications in the region like all nations that set strick rules for all dat.
yu persist with the question of whether I think he was worthy of selection or not. why! do you think that is a worthy question calculated to do wat..put me up against it, expose some defect in my position?
waaaaaat?
I have answered that question many times before and I wont answer it again here. my posts on skansh are all over the place. help yourself!
but stating that was just to highlight the fact that there is in place regular qualifications in the region like all nations that set strick rules for all dat.
yu persist with the question of whether I think he was worthy of selection or not. why! do you think that is a worthy question calculated to do wat..put me up against it, expose some defect in my position?
waaaaaat?
I have answered that question many times before and I wont answer it again here. my posts on skansh are all over the place. help yourself!
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 pm
well move faster. you know all I have said about skanshs' batting. I did not think his batting worthy of an investment at 29-30. I said so. he is just an ordinary player with determination, carefulness and a desire to bat long.BallOil wrote:I'm just trying to reason with you bro...Now you seh that I'm not West Indian..
I have said all his runs came in conditions which favoured batsmen...and when conditions made westindies struggle he was useless. in england dat last cold spring he could not score. sknash shud not have been that affected by the cold for white people are cold adapted. yet he struggled real hard and never scored.
his batting against good bowling, good test bowling in testng conditions is non-existent. I was shocked when he scored in Lanka, which is not an easy place to bat...and lanka have some bowlers who can be seriously testing when they are on. they werent during the last westindies tour and skansh scored well
but the Pakistanis were testing and the Indians good enough in the westindeis this year in what were testing conditions. skansh could do nothing with that bowling...nothing at all.
thats when I knew that Lanka wasnt the real test. that this was and skansh failed irrevocably like I knew he would in such conditions.
so do I think he is good enugh? no, no and no
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 pm
I mean no not on merit. I saw the man bat and I knew right off!
when a man arrives at 29 in almost anything what yu see is what you get! its like handicapping horses at the races. a horse is 6 years old and up and what yu see is what yu get...period.
and what dat horse will do on the day can be seen in what he has done up to then. he simply wont get better.
so if any of the younger horses in the race has shown any ability that indicates deh will run better than the best the older horse can do...even if he is ready on the day to produce that best..which is unlikely....dat younger horse will defeat the older one.
its the same way with people!
so that is why I said skansh was an unworthy pick. his record up to 29 was there for all to see. and it was not a good record, one that was even average or above. he had scored, wat... one Oz FC ton in all dat time. wat on earth wud he do for the westindies?
sknash scored 2 tons against england a couple of years ago. he could not do that against this current england team regardless of where the game is played, even on featherbeds.
knash wud not be able to deal with Broad, Tremlet, Anderson and Swan at all at all. these guys are a far cry from flintoff and the crowd the walked with last time. engalnd has come a long way in 2 years
when a man arrives at 29 in almost anything what yu see is what you get! its like handicapping horses at the races. a horse is 6 years old and up and what yu see is what yu get...period.
and what dat horse will do on the day can be seen in what he has done up to then. he simply wont get better.
so if any of the younger horses in the race has shown any ability that indicates deh will run better than the best the older horse can do...even if he is ready on the day to produce that best..which is unlikely....dat younger horse will defeat the older one.
its the same way with people!
so that is why I said skansh was an unworthy pick. his record up to 29 was there for all to see. and it was not a good record, one that was even average or above. he had scored, wat... one Oz FC ton in all dat time. wat on earth wud he do for the westindies?
sknash scored 2 tons against england a couple of years ago. he could not do that against this current england team regardless of where the game is played, even on featherbeds.
knash wud not be able to deal with Broad, Tremlet, Anderson and Swan at all at all. these guys are a far cry from flintoff and the crowd the walked with last time. engalnd has come a long way in 2 years
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:07 pm
it made sense to me for the wicb to keep digging for batsmen among westindian youth.
dat is what I wud have done were it my responsibnility. I wud have ignored skansh completely.
I wud take a look were he 19-21. but I wud be bline to 29 year-olds with 1 FC ton to their name
dat is what I wud have done were it my responsibnility. I wud have ignored skansh completely.
I wud take a look were he 19-21. but I wud be bline to 29 year-olds with 1 FC ton to their name