No warmup before the Tests

[Silvamaine]

Sorry AFRO,

You claim that half the team had already warmed-up in the ODIs, but that format doesn't really prepare you for test cricket. You need a completely different mindset to play the five-day version and in hindsight, i would've rather played a warm up and cut down the ODI schedule.

Regardless of what you say, the fact was that we were outplayed due to the team under-performing, through poor preperation and had it not been due to the weather, we would've struggled to save this test match, let alone any chance of winning it.

I'm not complaining because at the end of the day, we did pinch a draw, but if i can see that we needed better preperation, surely Gibson and the Board must be able to see that as well.

[AFRO]

Sorry AFRO,

You claim that half the team had already warmed-up in the ODIs, but that format doesn't really prepare you for test cricket. You need a completely different mindset to play the five-day version and in hindsight, i would've rather played a warm up and cut down the ODI schedule.

Regardless of what you say, the fact was that we were outplayed due to the team under-performing, through poor preperation and had it not been due to the weather, we would've struggled to save this test match, let alone any chance of winning it.

I'm not complaining because at the end of the day, we did pinch a draw, but if i can see that we needed better preperation, surely Gibson and the Board must be able to see that as well.

My argument is Bang had everything in their favor here, a dead road at the start of their innings which allowed them to go to 255/4 with no problem, then the ground got socked and changed the pitch, much like it did for the last ODI we played on it, their spinners were in heaven so of course it was gonna be tough for the guys, if we'd batted on the same road they did i'm confident we'd have put up a better total, word is the Dhaka pitch is NOT spin friendly so now we're gonna see what they are all about,

Lastly my comments about them having warm ups in the ODI's is valid imo, India PLAYED THREE TESTS against us in the Caribbean and then played a warm up match and still didn't look comfortable on the English tracks, so it can work both ways really.

[Googley]

Sorry AFRO,

You claim that half the team had already warmed-up in the ODIs, but that format doesn't really prepare you for test cricket. You need a completely different mindset to play the five-day version and in hindsight, i would've rather played a warm up and cut down the ODI schedule.

Regardless of what you say, the fact was that we were outplayed due to the team under-performing, through poor preperation and had it not been due to the weather, we would've struggled to save this test match, let alone any chance of winning it.

I'm not complaining because at the end of the day, we did pinch a draw, but if i can see that we needed better preperation, surely Gibson and the Board must be able to see that as well.

Silva, you expect Afro to debate logics and common sense?

[AFRO]

Silva, you expect Afro to debate logics and common sense?

Bwoy go cook Shiv's lunch!!.. all you do us hide behind other peoples statements!!.. .

[Googley]

Silva, you expect Afro to debate logics and common sense?

Bwoy go cook Shiv's lunch!!.. all you do us hide behind other peoples statements!!.. .

have you ever played Cricket, Afro?

[Silvamaine]

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My argument is Bang had everything in their favor here, a dead road at the start of their innings which allowed them to go to 255/4 with no problem, then the ground got socked and changed the pitch, much like it did for the last ODI we played on it, their spinners were in heaven so of course it was gonna be tough for the guys, if we'd batted on the same road they did i'm confident we'd have put up a better total, word is the Dhaka pitch is NOT spin friendly so now we're gonna see what they are all about,

Lastly my comments about them having warm ups in the ODI's is valid imo, India PLAYED THREE TESTS against us in the Caribbean and then played a warm up match and still didn't look comfortable on the English tracks, so it can work both ways really.

I understand what you're saying, but i guess that's simply down to the gamble of winning the toss. We've all seen enough test cricket to know that luck and fate can work for or against you, weather-permitting.

And i realise that sometimes all the warm-up practice in the world doesn't neccessarily get the touring team better results in the actual test match, but just for piece of mind, if i was the Coach or Captain, i'd be satisfied knowing that some of the players adjusted to playing the longer version, familiarise themselves on what should be simular conditions and hopefully get any match-rust, bad form or mistakes out of the way, during the practice sessions. It's not the ideal solution, but it's got to help surely?...

[AFRO]

Of course everyone would have liked a warm up, but if it doesn't happen what i we meant to do? call off the series like grandpa Mike would probably do? not for me boss .

[mikesiva]

I never said call it off...we just need the WICB to show some spine, the way the Aussies and the English do. Instead, the WICB seems to grovel like the slave driver it is, and say, 'Yes, Massa' whenever any other board tells them what it's going to do. And like the slave driver it is, the WICB only has a whip for its own slaves, the players....

Tell Bangladesh that they should start the tour five days earlier, and schedule a three-day warmup match. Tell India to play three ODIs instead of five, and schedule a three-day warmup before the first Test. After all, India has suffered so much from over-exposure to ODIs that its much-vaunted crowds for this format have dwindled considerably. Killing the goose that laid the golden egg?

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Three ODIs and a three-day warmup in India would make so much more sense than this overkill of five ODis, right after they've played five ODis against England....

[AFRO]

I never said call it off...we just need the WICB to show some spine, the way the Aussies and the English do. Instead, the WICB seems to grovel like the slave driver it is, and say, 'Yes, Massa' whenever any other board tells them what it's going to do. And like the slave driver it is, the WICB only has a whip for its own slaves, the players....

Tell Bangladesh that they should start the tour five days earlier, and schedule a three-day warmup match. Tell India to play three ODIs instead of five, and schedule a three-day warmup before the first Test. After all, India has suffered so much from over-exposure to ODIs that its much-vaunted crowds for this format have dwindled considerably. Killing the goose that laid the golden egg?

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Three ODIs and a three-day warmup in India would make so much more sense than this overkill of five ODis, right after they've played five ODis against England....

Actually didn't the guys play warm up matches IN THE UAE? might not be in bang but still in the sub-continant..maybe that's what they prefered? they played three one day matches from what i can remember and then went into the ODI series, from the ODi's they went into the tests, i don't think that preperation was so bad, only thing that would have been better would be if they'd picked Brathwaite, Shiv, Edwards, Baugh and Fidel for the last ODI so they could at least get thier feet wet in Bang.

[mikesiva]

If you're watching the Test series between Pakistan and Sri Lanka in the UAE as I am right now, you'd see that the pitches in Abu Dhabi and Dubai are very different from the pitch in Chittagong that was used for the Test. It's wrong to classify all pitches in the continent of Asia as alike. Also, as Silva pointed out, playing in ODIs is not a proper warmup for Tests. For example, Fidel would only bowl 10 overs in an ODI, if as much as that, whereas he would get more of a workout in a three-day game. However, I much prefer your last suggestion. Shiv, Kirk and Baugh needed to spend some proper time in the middle, so in the absence of a warmup, at least they could've picked those four, plus Brathwaite, for the final ODI.

But nothing can replace the inexcusable absence of a three-day warmup game. Thank God two days were ruined so that our players could use this Test as a three-day warmup game!

But will the WICB learn from this? I don't think so....