once I saw that wicket yesterday I knew what we were in for today so I refuse to watch it.
this is total insanity. I dont know how much longer I can take this
West Indies v India @ Kingston, Jun 20-24
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BallOil
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Sammy is a liability on this team...5.1 Rampaul to Dravid, no run, dropped by Sammy at second slip. He took two really nice catches in the first innings, but this one was much easier. A rare loose shot from Dravid, pushing away from the body, and Sammy goes hard at this attempt, almost grabbing at it. It was wait-high. Dropped
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howzdat
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Meh totally udersatand yuh mapoui!mapoui wrote:once I saw that wicket yesterday I knew what we were in for today so I refuse to watch it. this is total insanity. I dont know how much longer I can take this
For me it is not the wicket that provokes my ire and deters me from following each and every ball as the match unfolds, but rather it is the spectacle of witnessing the same old, same old failures by WI players again and again, match after match, competition after competition, year after year. As a fan, this ineptitude, leeches away at my joy for the game of cricket - especially when viewed from a West Indian perspective!
How come is it that Barath who has been injured and not played for WI for such a long time can bat in his first test back and end up being top scorer?! isn't this a damning indictment on the senior players in the team?! For instance Sarwan 3 off 30 balls a strike rate of a single run for every ten balls faced! A rate of progress that is bound to put a lot of pressure on the batsman at the other end. A player who, in the current state of Wi cricket, is likely to be someone young and inexperienced at this level. is this good for the team? No.
In my opinion, based on current performance, irregardless of what happens in the second innings the following sould happen:
1) Sarwan should be dropped. Time to try someone new at number 3.
2) Nash shold be on notice that his performances against Pakistan and in the first innings of this game do not merit him keeping his place in the team - vice captain or not! He has one more game to put in a performance otherwise time to try someone new at number 6.
3) Bravo needs some competition. If he continues to flatter to deceive in the second innings and the next match he should be dropped. Test cricket will not get any easier.
4) Otis Gibson. If the West Indies lose this series ...
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mapoui
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[quote]1) Sarwan should be dropped. Time to try someone new at number 3.
2) Nash shold be on notice that his performances against Pakistan and in the first innings of this game do not merit him keeping his place in the team - vice captain or not! He has one more game to put in a performance otherwise time to try someone new at number 6.
3) Bravo needs some competition. If he continues to flatter to deceive in the second innings and the next match he should be dropped. Test cricket will not get any easier.
4) Otis Gibson. If the West Indies lose this series[/quote
I am not hard on the players because I belive they canot perform in the conditoons which sorround the team. the westindies is a failed social entity...and if you notice historical when nations are failing generall, little deh do representative of them is of any class.
its like Pak now...in failure and playing the worse cricket since they got test status. when Pak entered test cricket deh played strong..night and day from wat deh are now, as their nations falls apart around them.
India is #1. India is now a powerful world nation, in league with the other rogue nations of the world,plundering weaker nations
when India was not cutarase was routine.
the westindies and its administration are the pits. the team plays accordingly
2) Nash shold be on notice that his performances against Pakistan and in the first innings of this game do not merit him keeping his place in the team - vice captain or not! He has one more game to put in a performance otherwise time to try someone new at number 6.
3) Bravo needs some competition. If he continues to flatter to deceive in the second innings and the next match he should be dropped. Test cricket will not get any easier.
4) Otis Gibson. If the West Indies lose this series[/quote
I am not hard on the players because I belive they canot perform in the conditoons which sorround the team. the westindies is a failed social entity...and if you notice historical when nations are failing generall, little deh do representative of them is of any class.
its like Pak now...in failure and playing the worse cricket since they got test status. when Pak entered test cricket deh played strong..night and day from wat deh are now, as their nations falls apart around them.
India is #1. India is now a powerful world nation, in league with the other rogue nations of the world,plundering weaker nations
when India was not cutarase was routine.the westindies and its administration are the pits. the team plays accordingly
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mapoui
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the life all westindian terriories is crappy and full of crime.
where Indian westidians live deh have managed to collectivise and make some hay.
where Blac people live deh have managed only disaster. but deh do not seem aware of thier terrible state, cannot collectivise and work together to produce nothing good. deh are individualised, seperate and war with each other, socia; atomised and beste with drugs and crime, government neglect and police/military depradation
all the governments are in debt and in the control of the metropole. local social infrastructure save in the rich ares is like a bombed out reality..where the poor people live. Jamaica where the biggest blac peopluation exists the conditions seem worst of all.
and it has always been so..for as long as I can remember and getting worse.
all those thngs ketch up with a society and expresses itself in the kind of total of system and people dat I belive the westindies is experiencing right now.
and dat situation expresses itself fully in cricket. the Dons of the real westindian mafia, the blac elites, are under pressure as the sitaution becomes more desperate for the people.
the people are standing up like Gayle and others and deh are afraid of dat, so deh have escalated the war by smashing the team, seeking to render it totally emasculated and in their utter control. the westindies team must be exactly the way deh want it ...or no way at all
where Indian westidians live deh have managed to collectivise and make some hay.
where Blac people live deh have managed only disaster. but deh do not seem aware of thier terrible state, cannot collectivise and work together to produce nothing good. deh are individualised, seperate and war with each other, socia; atomised and beste with drugs and crime, government neglect and police/military depradation
all the governments are in debt and in the control of the metropole. local social infrastructure save in the rich ares is like a bombed out reality..where the poor people live. Jamaica where the biggest blac peopluation exists the conditions seem worst of all.
and it has always been so..for as long as I can remember and getting worse.
all those thngs ketch up with a society and expresses itself in the kind of total of system and people dat I belive the westindies is experiencing right now.
and dat situation expresses itself fully in cricket. the Dons of the real westindian mafia, the blac elites, are under pressure as the sitaution becomes more desperate for the people.
the people are standing up like Gayle and others and deh are afraid of dat, so deh have escalated the war by smashing the team, seeking to render it totally emasculated and in their utter control. the westindies team must be exactly the way deh want it ...or no way at all
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mapoui
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to be honest with all ah allyuh...I doh see how the westindies can play better that they are playing. is impossible in the situation. I know of no historical period or precedent, during which a nation is in trouble socially, in its home, and its national representation is in excelcis.
it does not happen dat way. when you on top it is usually a factor of natural success and social fitness. look Indian cutting we are with their second 11. and deh knew they wud for deh know all I say here and how this works
India is so confident deh know if deh make 10 deh will make westindies mek 5
so while I talk abut the players I am not really worried about how they play. I know the reality around them produces an atrophy that stiffles all about them and the people deh represent .
the only player in there I really am not concerned about is sknash. he is no good, a true mediocrity...which is why the Oz wanted nothing to do with him. his 'welfare' days, sucking scarce opportunity and resources from more deserving local potentials will soon be over
it does not happen dat way. when you on top it is usually a factor of natural success and social fitness. look Indian cutting we are with their second 11. and deh knew they wud for deh know all I say here and how this works
India is so confident deh know if deh make 10 deh will make westindies mek 5
so while I talk abut the players I am not really worried about how they play. I know the reality around them produces an atrophy that stiffles all about them and the people deh represent .
the only player in there I really am not concerned about is sknash. he is no good, a true mediocrity...which is why the Oz wanted nothing to do with him. his 'welfare' days, sucking scarce opportunity and resources from more deserving local potentials will soon be over
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howzdat
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Dear mapoui, I respect your views as I do that of all the contributors to the forum. However, I find that some of your assertions, anecdotes and your tendency to utter ill-informed, dogmatic remarks when analysing certan issues a little bit 'crappy' - to borrow a phrase you used. I use it here to express my own opinion that some of it is solely fit for the garbage.
With regard to your above posts I am unsure whether you have personal issues with black people or political ones against the 'establishment' wherever it is to be found. Or indeed both?
If the forum admin feel it appropriate they can move this post off to a non-cricketing place on the forum.
With regard to your above posts I am unsure whether you have personal issues with black people or political ones against the 'establishment' wherever it is to be found. Or indeed both?
If the forum admin feel it appropriate they can move this post off to a non-cricketing place on the forum.
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howzdat
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Well, to state the obvious, the bolwers and fielders now need to claw this game back so that the batsmen can have a shot at making a fourth innings total to win this match. However, those who have been witnessing West Indies teams playing in recent years the question is, "have India already scored enough runs to have this game all sewn up?"
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