How darren Bravo get bowled I am again seriously angry...very, very, very angry.
dats twice I get angry for yesterday..its already friday 24. I did not see the bowl down yesterday but I see it tonight.
Bravo is a damm ass and a stupid lil bwoy playiong a mans game dat requires simple common sense and discipline. he saw Raul Dravid punish westindies for their mistakes yesterday with a disciplined ton and leafrned nutten at all from dravods example.
after all dat punishment and example, lil Bravo, a batsman, goes out and plays a jackass, inexplicable, simply cannot be explained shot when well-set, gets bowled and down went westindies chances.
I will not pick the lil arse in my 5-5-1 now.
drop his skunt and mek him fight his way back in. the lil arse needs all the trouble deh can give him to get back in the side.
my 5-5-1 will now be Gayle, Barath, Sarwan, Shive, sknash/samuels...bowlers and keeper. drop lil Bravo for his downright stupidity. he thinks he is Lara already but he is not. he is jess a lil pretender with hole where his brains ought to be
Now Dat I see.....
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The boy is still learning the game though!!..what the feck did Sarwan and Nash do in this Test? 
Darren made a silly error but our defeat was certainly not down to him alone, he will learn from this experience and come out a better player imo, in the world cup and at the begining of the Pak series he was getting out to spinners way too often, especially off-spinners but he learned from it and by the end of the Pak tests he was playing spin very well, that continued against India where he was hitting Mishra and Singh around the park,
The silly error he made was walking across his stumps but that can easily be addressed, everyone makes mistakes from time to time, look at Laxman? a man who has won India many games on his own but he looked like a novice in this Test, so give Darren a chance before you call for him to get dropped, in the last three Tests he's one of the few WI batsmen to have got a 50 along with Barath and Samuels.
Darren made a silly error but our defeat was certainly not down to him alone, he will learn from this experience and come out a better player imo, in the world cup and at the begining of the Pak series he was getting out to spinners way too often, especially off-spinners but he learned from it and by the end of the Pak tests he was playing spin very well, that continued against India where he was hitting Mishra and Singh around the park, The silly error he made was walking across his stumps but that can easily be addressed, everyone makes mistakes from time to time, look at Laxman? a man who has won India many games on his own but he looked like a novice in this Test, so give Darren a chance before you call for him to get dropped, in the last three Tests he's one of the few WI batsmen to have got a 50 along with Barath and Samuels.
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[quoteThe boy is still learning the game though!!..what the feck did Sarwan and Nash do in this Test? Darren made a silly error but our defeat was certainly not down to him alonequote]
apart from defeat or victory there is a way to do things and there isnt! lil Bravo is old enuff to know this. he is also old enuff to know the rudiments of professionalism and SELF-INTEREST.
if he wants to be a top batsman he has to score and there are ways to score in every circumstance and AND SUCCESS OR FAIL DAT OUGHT TO BE REFLECTED IN HIS ATTITUDE AT THE CREASE!
the question then is WHY DOESNT LIL BRAVO PUT HIS HEAD DOWN AND SCORE,,RATHER THAN ALWAYS, ALWAYS, REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION PLAYING SHOTS, AND SHOTS AND MORE SHOTS AND GETTING OUT AFTER MAKING STARTS?
man who the hell is he KING STARBOY!!!!
yesterday was the perfect stage to lauch the perfect impression of himself as a comer on the world stage, to establish his name. 2 full days to go, no need to hurry, to take no chances. stay there and the runs will come. all he had to do was put his head down, remove all unnecessary risk, play himself in again and win a game for himself and for the westindies.
INSTEAD HE LAUCHED THE OPPOSITE IMPRESSION OF HIMSELF..A TALENTED BUT FOOL KID
instead he was like a kid with a fast car who simply refuses to with the recognition that the cops are out there looking for such as he. he knows dat becuse he has been told many times to be careful and why to be careful but he cant help himself...or wont.
well..we know what happened to him with dat car...and IT is likely to happen to lil Bravo too if he does not learn to adjust to the circumstances of a game and bat always with determination and discipline AND SMARTS
apart from defeat or victory there is a way to do things and there isnt! lil Bravo is old enuff to know this. he is also old enuff to know the rudiments of professionalism and SELF-INTEREST.
if he wants to be a top batsman he has to score and there are ways to score in every circumstance and AND SUCCESS OR FAIL DAT OUGHT TO BE REFLECTED IN HIS ATTITUDE AT THE CREASE!
the question then is WHY DOESNT LIL BRAVO PUT HIS HEAD DOWN AND SCORE,,RATHER THAN ALWAYS, ALWAYS, REGARDLESS OF THE SITUATION PLAYING SHOTS, AND SHOTS AND MORE SHOTS AND GETTING OUT AFTER MAKING STARTS?
man who the hell is he KING STARBOY!!!!
yesterday was the perfect stage to lauch the perfect impression of himself as a comer on the world stage, to establish his name. 2 full days to go, no need to hurry, to take no chances. stay there and the runs will come. all he had to do was put his head down, remove all unnecessary risk, play himself in again and win a game for himself and for the westindies.
INSTEAD HE LAUCHED THE OPPOSITE IMPRESSION OF HIMSELF..A TALENTED BUT FOOL KID
instead he was like a kid with a fast car who simply refuses to with the recognition that the cops are out there looking for such as he. he knows dat becuse he has been told many times to be careful and why to be careful but he cant help himself...or wont.
well..we know what happened to him with dat car...and IT is likely to happen to lil Bravo too if he does not learn to adjust to the circumstances of a game and bat always with determination and discipline AND SMARTS
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AAGAIN...DRAVID WAS THE PERECT EXAMPLE!
rusty from lack of play, tuff conditions, both times while othere failed he buckled down and scored.
wesindies dropped him early in the second innings and he made sure to make wesindies pay for that mistake.
with skill, focus, concentration, determination..yuh name it.. he batted westindies out of the game on he chance we gave him.
Richie Richardson and Gus Logie battling for a place in the side. in his third opportunity in tests, a young man like lil Bravo, Richardson put his head down, took his time and scored 119..and never looked back.
Richardsons' batting was like Dravids. he always adjusted to the conditions of the game and the weather. he almost always scored for the westindies. Richardson was full of defence and determination but possessed all the shots in the world. and when the ocassion demanded he unfurled them in full array
only Kanhai surpasses Ricrahdson at number 3 for the westindies. and Kanhai too was full of defence and shots. Kanhai cud shut up shop and take aparta an oppostion when necessary.
those players were and are smart yuh see...full of simple common sense, creative also...leaders yuh could and can depend on to get you..to lead you... somewhere safe. dat is all I ask from lil Bravo. let the oppsition defeat you. do not defeat yourself for them.
lil Bravo leads nowhere and suggesst dat all he can do is jackassness after getting only far as his great natural ability can take him
rusty from lack of play, tuff conditions, both times while othere failed he buckled down and scored.
wesindies dropped him early in the second innings and he made sure to make wesindies pay for that mistake.
with skill, focus, concentration, determination..yuh name it.. he batted westindies out of the game on he chance we gave him.
Richie Richardson and Gus Logie battling for a place in the side. in his third opportunity in tests, a young man like lil Bravo, Richardson put his head down, took his time and scored 119..and never looked back.
Richardsons' batting was like Dravids. he always adjusted to the conditions of the game and the weather. he almost always scored for the westindies. Richardson was full of defence and determination but possessed all the shots in the world. and when the ocassion demanded he unfurled them in full array
only Kanhai surpasses Ricrahdson at number 3 for the westindies. and Kanhai too was full of defence and shots. Kanhai cud shut up shop and take aparta an oppostion when necessary.
those players were and are smart yuh see...full of simple common sense, creative also...leaders yuh could and can depend on to get you..to lead you... somewhere safe. dat is all I ask from lil Bravo. let the oppsition defeat you. do not defeat yourself for them.
lil Bravo leads nowhere and suggesst dat all he can do is jackassness after getting only far as his great natural ability can take him
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6 tests the kid has played now,. has had instant success but the pattern he has established is as a follower.
every time he has batted in a test he has impressed. most times he has scored, made a start and failed to carry on. twice, 3 times dat can be attributed to youth.
by the sixth time it is a pattern dat must be broken if he is to go on.
if yuh bet on horses you wud see wat I mean easily.
if a horse does dat as often as lil Bravo..run a race and always end up second or third, never carrying on...by his sixth race he is long judged as a follower. he is a type who follows, often coming up close to the leader but never passes him.
Dravid, Richardson, kanhai..all leaders. Bravo has established the follower pattern already. he may score fifties often enuff to keep his place, which means he is fit for number 6 in the batting not number 3.
he is a Solomon tpe only dat Solomon knew it. lil Bravo does not know it yet and still thinks of himself as a batting leader. well he has to see what he has done to himself clearly, what is involved for him to have a chance of breaking the pattern to become the leader he thinks he is.
he has to score big...now!
if westindies pick lil Bravo again deh shud put him at number six right now, next test, and forget about him. let him screw around with his fifities and forties and his stupid outs there....or prove that he belongs higher by scoring big.. down there.
every time he has batted in a test he has impressed. most times he has scored, made a start and failed to carry on. twice, 3 times dat can be attributed to youth.
by the sixth time it is a pattern dat must be broken if he is to go on.
if yuh bet on horses you wud see wat I mean easily.
if a horse does dat as often as lil Bravo..run a race and always end up second or third, never carrying on...by his sixth race he is long judged as a follower. he is a type who follows, often coming up close to the leader but never passes him.
Dravid, Richardson, kanhai..all leaders. Bravo has established the follower pattern already. he may score fifties often enuff to keep his place, which means he is fit for number 6 in the batting not number 3.
he is a Solomon tpe only dat Solomon knew it. lil Bravo does not know it yet and still thinks of himself as a batting leader. well he has to see what he has done to himself clearly, what is involved for him to have a chance of breaking the pattern to become the leader he thinks he is.
he has to score big...now!
if westindies pick lil Bravo again deh shud put him at number six right now, next test, and forget about him. let him screw around with his fifities and forties and his stupid outs there....or prove that he belongs higher by scoring big.. down there.
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AND SOMEBODY MUST TELL THE YOUNG HOT FOOL WAT THE SITUATION IS SO THAT HE CAN SEE..WHICH IS WHY I PRINT IT SO BIG...FUH HIM TO SEE IT TUH RARSE!
HE MUST BECOME A LEADER. IT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN, BY DEMONSTRATING THAT HE HAS THE CAPACITY TO LEARN, ADAPT , ADJUST, CREATE...IN OTHER WORDS LEAD.
for all dat, the brains on his shoulders must be used. there is ample education all around him. he does not have to be told... if he is smart he can learn on his own.
but I am sure he has been told many times already what to do, how to do it etc. he has been coached, advised, spoken to, rubbed shoulders with the legends..been all over the world..plays with legends like Dravid...right in front of him.
lil Bravo has no excuse. he must score now if he wants a cricket career....or take the consequences!
stick me with a fork...now I am done!
HE MUST BECOME A LEADER. IT IS EARNED NOT GIVEN, BY DEMONSTRATING THAT HE HAS THE CAPACITY TO LEARN, ADAPT , ADJUST, CREATE...IN OTHER WORDS LEAD.
for all dat, the brains on his shoulders must be used. there is ample education all around him. he does not have to be told... if he is smart he can learn on his own.
but I am sure he has been told many times already what to do, how to do it etc. he has been coached, advised, spoken to, rubbed shoulders with the legends..been all over the world..plays with legends like Dravid...right in front of him.
lil Bravo has no excuse. he must score now if he wants a cricket career....or take the consequences!
stick me with a fork...now I am done!
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Imo it's rather futile to compare Dravid to Darren now because obviously Dravid is vastly experience and has seen it all before, DARREN HAS ONLY HAD SIX TESTS MAN, and yet he's averaging 41 despite seeing all his fellow batsmen fail all around him time and time again, what was Lara's average after six Tests? i doubt it was much better than Darren's that's for sure,
The yute has made mistakes as we all know but like i said before THE BOY WILL GET IT RIGHT IN TIME, he's playing spin much better now and i'm sure he will stop walking across his crease now because the coaches will pump it into him not to do that, we all saw how much talent he has with that 86 he got in the last ODI so he's already shown he can get big runs,
At 22 the yute is still learning, India's young hope (Koli) is the same age and played in the Test and what did he do? HE FAILED TWICE!!, look around in world cricket and i doubt very much you'll find better batting prospect than Darren, the only one who could be better is his own team mate Barath!!, which bodes well for WI's future indeed.
The yute has made mistakes as we all know but like i said before THE BOY WILL GET IT RIGHT IN TIME, he's playing spin much better now and i'm sure he will stop walking across his crease now because the coaches will pump it into him not to do that, we all saw how much talent he has with that 86 he got in the last ODI so he's already shown he can get big runs,
At 22 the yute is still learning, India's young hope (Koli) is the same age and played in the Test and what did he do? HE FAILED TWICE!!, look around in world cricket and i doubt very much you'll find better batting prospect than Darren, the only one who could be better is his own team mate Barath!!, which bodes well for WI's future indeed.
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yu keep missing my point AFRO. look at my mention of Richie Richardson...
Imo it's rather futile to compare Dravid to Darren now because obviously Dravid is vastly
its a question of appraoch. its like I am saying...and I am..dat daren has gotten as far as he has on pure natural ability. at some point his head, attitude, approach, caution, brains, adjustment, will have to kick in to take him the rest of the way.
he is not appraoch ing his batting with the attitude neceeary for him to score big. and now or ever if he does not develop dat he will not score big, but remain in the big fifties which is satisfsctory for down the order not at the top of it.
I am saying six test matches are enuff to determine a pattern, a trend..and if lil Bravo were a young horse in the Kentucky derby for example I wud not bet on him to win because he wont...but to finish somewhere second or third or some such.
I am not comparing him to Dravid. I asking him to follow Dravids' example. I am asking him to follow Richie Ricghardson, sobers examples.
Richies was so smart so determined to be successful that he scored his first test ton third time..did nto wait for 6 matches and still fighting. for it!
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Richie Richardson failed miserably in english conditions. he could do nothing at all with spin, his weakness against test spin palpable. by the middle of his career Richardson had mastered both.
at melbourne Oz in 1988-89, Richie scored a ton that won the game for the westindies in the most horrid conditions. check dat out. dat was attitude, appraoch, smarts...much more than natrural ability.
I am saying that in his third test, a truly unjust pick for the place shud have gone to Logie, richardson sat down in the damm wicket, knowing he had to score big to keep his place and did exactly that.
he dropped all the nonses, never put a foot wrong for about 4-5 hours and made 119 against Oz to keep his place.
I am saying that Dravid wud never have got himself out in any circumstance at all, the way lil Bravo got out this time. Dravid did not do that as a young batsman and most certainly will not do it now. you had to get him out. he wud not get himself out.
there is no gurantee at all that lil Bravo wud have scored regardless. but you have to develop and keep the proerp attitude. you dont throw your wicket away.
at melbourne Oz in 1988-89, Richie scored a ton that won the game for the westindies in the most horrid conditions. check dat out. dat was attitude, appraoch, smarts...much more than natrural ability.
I am saying that in his third test, a truly unjust pick for the place shud have gone to Logie, richardson sat down in the damm wicket, knowing he had to score big to keep his place and did exactly that.
he dropped all the nonses, never put a foot wrong for about 4-5 hours and made 119 against Oz to keep his place.
I am saying that Dravid wud never have got himself out in any circumstance at all, the way lil Bravo got out this time. Dravid did not do that as a young batsman and most certainly will not do it now. you had to get him out. he wud not get himself out.
there is no gurantee at all that lil Bravo wud have scored regardless. but you have to develop and keep the proerp attitude. you dont throw your wicket away.
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please read wat I have been syaing carefully!
I HAVE NOTED A SERIOUS FLAW IN LIL BRAVO AND IT IS ATTITUDE AND APPROACH. HIS APPROACH IS INADEQUATE WHICH IS WHY HE HAS NOT SCORED A TON OR 2 AS YET. HE DOES NOT ADJUST TO CONDITIONS, HE IS NOT CAREFUL, HE PLAYS THE SAME GAME EVERYTIME, REGARDLESS OF CONDITIONS OR THE STATE OF THE .
I am saying that that is ridiculous and I have used some examples to illustrate my point...Dravid, Richardson, Sobers.
I am not compoaring lil Bravo to these great players but asking him to use their examples as guide to developing a sucessful professionalism for him...a career that will benefit the westindies immensely.
I am looking out for US, by seeking to suggest to a very talented young man, that he must channell his talent into the discipline that is essential for him to realise his potential fully.
thats what i am doing. I wud give the same advice to simmons who needs it even more desperatly than lil Bravo. but its not comparison between a kid and acieved players. example...that is what it is..calling him to use these as guides to success
I HAVE NOTED A SERIOUS FLAW IN LIL BRAVO AND IT IS ATTITUDE AND APPROACH. HIS APPROACH IS INADEQUATE WHICH IS WHY HE HAS NOT SCORED A TON OR 2 AS YET. HE DOES NOT ADJUST TO CONDITIONS, HE IS NOT CAREFUL, HE PLAYS THE SAME GAME EVERYTIME, REGARDLESS OF CONDITIONS OR THE STATE OF THE .
I am saying that that is ridiculous and I have used some examples to illustrate my point...Dravid, Richardson, Sobers.
I am not compoaring lil Bravo to these great players but asking him to use their examples as guide to developing a sucessful professionalism for him...a career that will benefit the westindies immensely.
I am looking out for US, by seeking to suggest to a very talented young man, that he must channell his talent into the discipline that is essential for him to realise his potential fully.
thats what i am doing. I wud give the same advice to simmons who needs it even more desperatly than lil Bravo. but its not comparison between a kid and acieved players. example...that is what it is..calling him to use these as guides to success