Manjrekar: most of the WI batsmen not international class

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AFRO
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Yes that SKUNT Sanjay Manjrekar says in an Cricinfo interview HERE that "apart from Chanderpaul most of the WI batsman were not international class so it's hard to judge how good the spinners are"..WHAT AN ARROGENT THING TO SAY!!, did India look "international class" when they were getting TERRORIZED innings after innings in England? :roll:

The story of that match was BOTH sides had a bad innings with the bat, but at least our excuse is four of our top six were young, both Darren and Kraigg have 50s against India this year whilst Kirk has a ton, and Barath has a 50 against them aswell, so if these kind of players "aren't international standard" then their bowling unit is in real trouble, especially as we've posted a total above 300 in our last two Tests against them aswell,

Let them have their last hurrah though, it won't last long because quite frankly their a fading force, their three best batters (Tendy, Dravid, Laxman) will soon be history and their best bowler (Khan) is old and injury prone, even Sharma at this young age is starting to break down and is forced to play with an injury,

In closing i'll say this, if our young team can compete with them when they have their "superstars" can you imagine what it will be like when their superstars have retired and our youngsters have gained more experience on the international scene? lets wait and see :mrgreen: .
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Actually, I think Manjrekar has a point....

Our batsmen, apart from Shiv, just didn't feel comfortable using their feet to the spinners on a track that assists turn. While Shiv made runs look easy, the pitch became a minefield for the other batsmen.

Our openers, Brathwaite, Powell, Barath and Simmons, all average less than 30 in Tests so far. Kirk and Bravo have had good starts to their Test careers, but they seem to struggle against good attacks on pitches that help bowlers. Samuels has the talent, but just doesn't seem to have the mental strength to convert that talent into consistency, and while our keepers are good glovemen, they have difficulty making runs at Test level.
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mikesiva wrote:Actually, I think Manjrekar has a point....

Our batsmen, apart from Shiv, just didn't feel comfortable using their feet to the spinners on a track that assists turn. While Shiv made runs look easy, the pitch became a minefield for the other batsmen.

Our openers, Brathwaite, Powell, Barath and Simmons, all average less than 30 in Tests so far. Kirk and Bravo have had good starts to their Test careers, but they seem to struggle against good attacks on pitches that help bowlers. Samuels has the talent, but just doesn't seem to have the mental strength to convert that talent into consistency, and while our keepers are good glovemen, they have difficulty making runs at Test level.
Mike what the hell are you talking about? :roll: there's a big difference between saying "the wi batters didn't do well against the spinners" and saying "all but Chanders were international class"..INDIA'S "SUPERSTAR" BATTING LINE-UP FAILED IN THE FIRST INNINGS THEMSELVES, and looked utterly ridiculous in England, so are they not "international" class now? :|

As for the openers, it's trivial to be looking at their averages when neither has even played ten tests yet, Brathwaite only has four under his belt and yet he's got two 50s already, Barath also has a ton to his name aswell, those are the two i have high hopes for, Powell doesn't cut it imo.
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Apologies for being a fence-sitter guys, but you both bring valid points to this article.

Afro, you're right about Manjrekar casting judgement on the Windies batting line-up, when the high-ranking Indian batsmen (with the exception of Dravid) was owned by the England bowlers a few months ago. You could say that their batsman didn't look like International class in that series, so maybe Manjrekar should appreciate how difficult it can be at times for a touring team to adjust to conditions away from home, instead of taking obvious pot-shots at a young, inexperienced, inconsistant batting line-up, that is way below the rankings from them.

Mike, the stats don't lie. It's as simple as that, but we all know that this makeshift batting line-up is more due to complicated politics, that put's us in the situation that we find. We could have a much stronger team on paper, but hypotheticals are all well and good. Unlike Manjrekar we all know that the main objective is to see how this Squad copes against one of the top teams in World Cricket. Nobody is expecting them to win, but it will be valuable experience for the youngsters to have a taste of pressure-cricket at the highest level.

And if the first test is anything to go by, with the exception of that poor performance in the second-innings, i thought they equipped themselves better than expected for the majority of that match.
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Manjrekar is 100% correct and he can say so without hesitation...now he said what he said, its only fair that the WI batsmen go out there and prove him wrong.... :lol: :lol:

He is nat the first to make such accusation and its being said for a while now...its called perception and its up to our batsmen to prove to all their critics that perception is not reality... :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Manjrekar is correct! Which other WI batsman, beside Shiv is Worldclass?

hmmmm, Gayle, Sars....oh wait, they not on tour! :lol: :lol:
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ouch...this one hurt you eh Afro? :lol:
Sanjay Manjrekar says in an Cricinfo interview HERE that "apart from Chanderpaul most of the WI batsman were not international class so it's hard to judge how good the spinners are"..
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Googley wrote:Manjrekar is correct! Which other WI batsman, beside Shiv is Worldclass?

hmmmm, Gayle, Sars....oh wait, they not on tour! :lol: :lol:
India bowling is not world class either! :)
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BallOil wrote:
Googley wrote:Manjrekar is correct! Which other WI batsman, beside Shiv is Worldclass?

hmmmm, Gayle, Sars....oh wait, they not on tour! :lol: :lol:
India bowling is not world class either! :)

that tells you how bad the other batsmen are!! :lol:

Bally, you adding fuel to the fire!
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Googley wrote:
BallOil wrote:
Googley wrote:Manjrekar is correct! Which other WI batsman, beside Shiv is Worldclass?

hmmmm, Gayle, Sars....oh wait, they not on tour! :lol: :lol:
India bowling is not world class either! :)

that tells you how bad the other batsmen are!! :lol:

Bally, you adding fuel to the fire!
I'm supporting Afro on this one.. How much licks he alone can tek? 8-)
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